The film does not tell the truth
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kenbarr-ny — 17 years ago(November 28, 2008 11:34 AM)
For someone like David Maxwell-Fyfe to order a review of the case makes your comments seem somewhat daft. Remember, Sir David was a such a believer in capital punishment that he refused to overturn the death sentence of Derek Bentley even though the jury recommended mercy. Evans was an illiterate who Christie was able to manipulate. By the way, what "facts" did Kennedy (not a particular favorite of mine) omit? Be specific and then I might consider your argument.
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investideal — 17 years ago(December 07, 2008 07:53 AM)
Several, here are two. At the post mortem of Mrs Evans no trace of semen was found in her vagina yet the film clearly shows him achieving orgasm.I understand that Kennedy wrote that if they had taken a swab of her vagina semen would have been found. Kennedy conveniently omits that Tim was a difficult child and was violent to his wife at times.The violence verged on the maniacal and Kennedy makes no mention of the testimony of FOUR people who saw this.
What about Beryl's flirtation with the painter? Ok three the bruising to her legs.Four Evans was a heavy drinker, no mention.Ill go for a nap hand here==no mention that Beryl left the house on the morning of the murder with baby,pram and friend.And one last one of many Beryls body was wrapped differently from christies other victims, but that the wrapping was similar to that of Setty's.OK? -
Troughboss — 17 years ago(December 09, 2008 10:58 AM)
I don't believe Christie killed the Evans child, I believe it was Evans. Evans admitted this in prison to Hume.
I don't get this "its too much of a coincidence" stuff, surely there is a possibility of two killers at the same address, unlikely,yes, but impossible, no. -
investideal — 17 years ago(December 14, 2008 04:04 AM)
Oh that has to be one of the most ridiculous statements.Fact:Christie only killed women who were untraceable.Beryl lived at the same place as he did.And why would a father kill his baby daughter for no reason? He strangled her because she was supposed to have left the house with her mother but she kept crying and he didnt know what to do.Look Evans was not very bright and he thought that he could just get rid of things, including people, and then everything would be ok.
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Troughboss — 17 years ago(December 15, 2008 09:03 AM)
You are quite a hostile Knob splash arn't you. I feel it is pointless to continue this discussion with someone who's arrogance transcends his judgement, what is the point of debate if you are always correct.
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Jack_1515 — 16 years ago(May 30, 2009 08:23 AM)
You have no idea what you're talking about. Ligature use was Cristie's trademark, it shows premeditation. Beryl Evans was strangled with a ligature, as were 6 other women in that house, but in your narcissistic, wet dream, fantasy world it's just a coincidence right? Evans MUST be guilty because the establishment says so, not because there is any physical evidance to support you.
Serial killers do not change their MOs. What were the clippings of the torse murder get in the apartment when Evans couldn't read? Cristie was the only one in that building who kept clippings. Cristie admitted killing Beryl and all the evidance supports that FACT.
How did the body get in the wash house with the workers discovering it? How did a little runt like Evans move the body without anyone noticing? The only thing that retard Evans was capable of was acting in a moment of passion. Cristie was left with the child and he murdered the poor thing.
I don't know what your agenda is, but it is clear you don't know what you're talking about. You're probably related to the morons who put Evans to death for a crime he didn't commit.
Smarter people than you have tried to pin the murders on Evans and it didn't stand the test of history or decades of scrutiny. Evans may have been an illiterate, retarded, wife beater, but he didn't kill his wife or child and you dishonor the victims and the criminal justice system by asserting otherwise.
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investideal — 16 years ago(August 10, 2009 02:42 AM)
My God I have only just read this. Evans could read somewhat, his job was a delivery man he would need to read road names.The film shows Christie raping Beryl - no traces of semen were found in her at the PM. I have looked at copies of the workmens timesheets to work out the various dates etc. Beryl was not even at home when she was supposed to have been murdered. The couple had been seen and heard fighting on a number of occasions - Evans threatened to kill her. Evans killed the baby, basically because he didnt know what to do with it.She was strangled with a sash cord whereas Christie had his own equipment.If I were you I should check things out before you make sweeping statements just because you have seen a stupid movie. Next you will be telling Braveheart was all true as well. Ah well at least you have learned something today
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harland-ncl — 16 years ago(September 04, 2009 04:51 AM)
The baby had a man's tie round her neck when her body was found in the wash house (not Christie's trade mark), and Timothy Evans eventually told the Police that the baby's crying had got on his nerves.
My understanding from various reports on the case is that Timothy Evans was semi-illiterate, not totally illiterate. He also had a speech impediment.
It has been suggested that the newspaper article on the torso murders (whatever they were) found in Evans' flat was planted by Christie since Timothy Evans probably wouldn't have been able to read them.