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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Earth II
PTL1954 — 16 years ago(October 16, 2009 10:54 AM)
Well I just got it from WBARCHIVESHOP.COM Talk about a boring movie to say the least. I thought it was better the way I remembered it.
Although its been some 30 plus years since I've seen it. Oh well a wasted $19.95. -
Movie_map — 16 years ago(November 01, 2009 09:27 AM)
"I thought it was better the way I remembered it."
That's often the case. There was another TV flick made about the same time called 'The Love War'. It was a scifi movie about aliens disguised as humans battling it out on earth. I remembered the final shot, an image of how the aliens actually looked, to be very scary and disturbing. However when I saw a still of that scene recently I thought "This is what freaked me out?". It was kinda lame. Some things are best left in our memories.
I haven't watched Earth II in about 30 years. However I could recall it very clearly as I was reading the synopsis on Wikipedia, especially the scenes with Mariette Hartley
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ixlplk — 16 years ago(December 05, 2009 09:57 PM)
You know it's amazing how good I remembered the effects looking back then and now I watch it and it looks almost like the Dr. Who effects from the 70's. You have to remember this was the age of only three television networks and 480i image resolution. So back then your brain put it together a little more than it would now perhaps. Some movies don't hold up well AS MOVIES but their dated-ness gives them a charm.
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solex10 — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 05:36 AM)
I haven't watched Earth II in about 30 years. However I could recall it very clearly as I was reading the synopsis on Wikipedia, especially the scenes with Mariette Hartley
That's
Genesis II
that Hartley was in,
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pninson — 15 years ago(January 05, 2011 10:36 PM)
I don't think I ever saw this when it aired, but it is pretty boring. About the only saving grace is Mariette Hartley.
For some reason, Tony Franciosa really irritates me in this picture. Back in the day, I thought he was cool.
Oh well, you pays your money and you takes your chances.
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jeffyoung1 — 13 years ago(March 26, 2013 06:26 AM)
We all experience the same memory fade as yours. Thanks to YouTube, Amazon.com, and IMDB, we can go back in time and re-watch movies. In many cases, we are disappointed. That is because, we were more impressionable when younger, special effects that were state of the art or at least current, are greatly outdated, and more, human memories do change and become unreliable.
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dgranger — 10 years ago(July 24, 2015 04:52 PM)
It is not. There are other factors that add to this. Memory sometimes embellishes things, or newer technology exposes the flaws of the old. There is an old Japanese (I think), Chinese story called "The Autumn Mountian". It is a story of how an art lover sees a painting called "The Spring Mountain" and marveled how great it was. Well, a friend of his says basically that that was nothing, wait until you see autumn mountain painting by the same artist, it makes this one look like a piece of crap, he says he had seen it ONCE a long time ago and hasn't seen it since. Well the two track down the painting. When the two see it, it turns out to be a vastly inferior work, and the one says that this is not the painting he saw. It looked similar but not what he saw. Memory embellishes.
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TheFearmakers — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 10:06 PM)
I was too young to grow up with this stuff, but for me, special effects aren't what bums me out about being shocked in that, "What Were We Thinking?" way, but usually it's the writing I remember as being better, and acting. Then I'll rewatch and it falls flat.
Enough of that EARTH 2 kinda grew on me. It's very technical and very science-fiction with a lot of science in there and not enough fun fiction to be had. The entire movie is really a We Got A Problem type of thing (heck, even the Avengers was that on a grand scale) Almost like a single episode of an existing series that happens to be about dentinating (can't spell) nukes, which this is about
Instead of having Gary Lockwood quoting poetry and his eyes turning a different color while trying to outsmart a demonic computer he just sits there all idealistically and watches as Scott Hylands (an actor who came and went his peak being THE BOYS IN COMPANY C) does all the work, hands-on
I also have all the Roddenberry pilots and yeah. Hartley's in both. The ingenue in one, and in E2 she's the liberal wife of the, of course, evil right wingish Tony F Who thinks we should always have a defense up while the rest outlaw squirt guns, and are proud of it
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dgranger — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 08:45 AM)
First off, let's get something strait here. "Earth II" was part of a series of made for TV movies on ABC (the American Broadcast Company) called " The Movie Of The Week" or "The ABC Movie Of The Week". ABC used that series to test air pilots of several future tv series (like "The Love Boat", "Longstreet", "Fantasy Island" (under a different name), "Owen Marshall: Counselor of Law", "The Nightstalker" and "Marcus Welby" too name a few). Very few stand alone movies were shown on that series: like "Tribes", "Brian's Song", and Steven Spielberg's "Dual". "Earth II" was most likely a pilot for a series that failed. T. F. a and M.H. were mostly doing TV series work at that time and not known for theatrical cinema work.
That being said, it fallows Gene Roddenberry's pattern at that time of three authority figures co-operating together - one representing one side, another representing the other side, and the third choosing between the two. Even Roddenberry knew that one side is never totally wrong and to go out into an unguarded area without a means of defense on a peaceful mission was a facially stupid naive idea because the other side may not want to be peaceful. Though hated and rejected, TF's character was proven right on several
points in the film. TF character reflects the real secret issue that fueled the space race ever since Eisenhower's presidency. The issue was, in the age of nuclear weapons using space or the moon to put in not only spy satellites but also putting nuclear missile platforms on the moon or in geo-synchronized orbit above a country and drop bombs from there.
That fear was real in the military and in the government. TF character expresses the very real fear at that time of having a foreign power or weapon orbiting above your heads. Like Roddenberry points out. While pursuing peace, you don't let your guard down in case the other side doesn't want to be peaceful. Trust but be ready to defend yourself in case things go bad.