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  3. Klute was superbly made but left me perplexed. The plot (sequence of events) was pretty lame and the ending was like som

Klute was superbly made but left me perplexed. The plot (sequence of events) was pretty lame and the ending was like som

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    dailyshampoo48 — 12 years ago(September 01, 2013 11:26 PM)

    Remember when audiences automatically realized that movies were about both the plot AND the characters?
    Oh my god yes.
    I just can't enjoy anything past 1980 or so. And I find that Christopher Nolan beep downright autistic.

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      marcellis_robinson — 11 years ago(June 13, 2014 07:08 PM)

      I feel the same way. The movie studios were gobbled up by big media conglomerates around 1980, and they became obsessed with profits during the Reagan years. Most movie projects are scrutinized as a business investment, not on their artistic merits. The popularity of MTV in the 80's encouraged entertainment execs to go all out to dumb things down. The result is a lot of movies starring Adam Sandler or Jennifer Aniston.

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          rmanlius — 13 years ago(November 13, 2012 09:41 AM)

          The psychology was interesting but I admit took me some time to figure out that that was the main point.
          The plot was easy enough to follow, but once you figured out who the bad guy was and what he was doing, it turned into the kind of thing Austin Powers spoofed. Do you think he spent as much time explaining himself to all of his victims as he spent with Bree? How could Klute realistically find the exact office, on the exact floor, of the exact building in Manhattan where he was explaining himself just in time to save Bree? The building was obviously multi-story. And who would allow Bree to stay in the building after the business closed and why would they leave the door unlocked in NYC? To me, stuff like that was a contradiction to an otherwise serious and realistic thriller.

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            renatom1 — 13 years ago(January 10, 2013 08:39 AM)

            The movie is about a woman living as a prostitute in New York, and the dilemmas she faces: continue making quick money as a call girl or become an actress/model or marry the nice businessman from Pennsylvania or succumb to heroin addiction like the rest of her hooker friends. In order to make the story more interesting and sell more movie tickets, the producers placed this drama within the larger context of a suspense thriller: Where is Grunemann? Why did he disappear after seeing Bree? Is he stalking her, or is it someone else? And if it is someone else, who is he, and why is he stalking Bree, and does he have anything to do with Grunemann's disappearanceand is Bree in grave danger??? It is a great formula for both critical and commercial success.

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              leglos24 — 12 years ago(August 14, 2013 03:21 PM)

              There is a scene in which Klute calls Bree's psychiatrist's office and is told she left a forwarding number. He then tries to get it from the reluctant secretary. This is about the same time as the killer is playing the tape for Bree. I assumed that Klute eventually got the phone number, found out who it belonged to (at this point he would get the building and floor location) and went there. Granted, it all happens too fast, I don't think he would have enough time to do all that and still show up in the nick of time to save Bree unless the building is literally next door.

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                bon22 — 12 years ago(December 28, 2013 08:25 PM)

                Very well stated, renatom1.
                "Remember when audiences automatically realized that movies were about both the plot AND the characters?"
                Right, mizhu. A good film has both.

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                  spookyrat1 — 11 years ago(September 05, 2014 05:02 PM)

                  A good film has both.
                  Yes, this film is both detective thriller and character-driven mood piece, relying on us observing the complex inner life of a very non-stereotypical call girl.

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                    bon22 — 11 years ago(August 02, 2014 05:51 PM)

                    Austin Powers? what?

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                      engle_james — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 06:26 AM)

                      I agree 100% with rmanlius- I just watched this on my DVR last night and even though I really liked it, the things you mentioned totally took me out of the film. All the workers just let Bree stay in the office while they left? They didn't lock up? The elevator can be used at any time by anyone? Wow, I guess the business was just lucky NYC is such a safe city and burglary and theft aren't a problem. And the scene where the answering service gave Klute the phone # Bree was at? Yeah, that would really happen. And why wouldn't the operator go ahead and tell him she said she was only going to wait for 5 minutes before leaving? She would have already been long gone! The climax falls apart, complete with a tacked on happy ending.

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                        SkipEastport — 5 years ago(November 12, 2020 08:05 PM)

                        “How could Klute realistically find the exact office, on the exact floor, of the exact building in Manhattan where he was explaining himself just in time to save Bree?”
                        Klute had previously followed Bree to Goldfarb’s and spied on them from an adjacent building. He knew exactly where she was. And it was within walking distance because she had walked there instead of taking a taxi.

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                            Maddyclassicfilms — 12 years ago(September 15, 2013 11:24 AM)

                            I always saw that in Klute she found an incorruptible man. He helped her and tried to help her help herself, he didn't hurt her and didn't want anything from her.
                            It is my business to protect your majesty. against all things.

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                              kenny-164 — 11 years ago(August 13, 2014 01:51 PM)

                              Maddy,
                              Yes, that is it. She did not believe in her own redemption because all around her led her to think no one else was achieving any redemption. She even questioned her therapist's ability to achieve anything (although of course WE see it was her fault she was not improving until the latter part of the film).
                              Also on the point about character development, themes related to that, and the plot, it does seem to me there are few films today that successfully combine that. My favorite films of the last ten or twelve years include Lost in Translation, which many complain has no real plot (I disagree, but that's not the point), and No Country for Old Men, which many complain does not clearly ally its plot with its themes (such disagreement being indirectly made in the way there is so much disagreement about the connection between the narrative and the thematic). I disagree with the criticisms of those films, but my main point is there are so few films which even try to combine those elements.
                              Klute is not the greatest film of the seventies. But it does succeed at making that combination.

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                                Sunflower007 — 11 years ago(February 22, 2015 04:28 PM)

                                ~ The movie plot was okay, not the very best or worst. It was a sort interesting thriller. Bree's case was interesting to see when she couldn't quite figure out what she wanted and falling into the worse mess.
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                                    Maddyclassicfilms — 10 years ago(June 27, 2015 11:33 AM)

                                    Maddy,
                                    Yes, that is it. She did not believe in her own redemption because all around her led her to think no one else was achieving any redemption. She even questioned her therapist's ability to achieve anything (although of course WE see it was her fault she was not improving until the latter part of the film).
                                    Hi Kenny. Glad it's not just me who sees it like that. I think Bree is such an interesting character she's trapped in a world she'd like to escape from, what she doesn't realise yet is that she can if she chooses to leave that way of life.
                                    John Klute helps her realise she can leave and he helps her realise that not everybody is out to use her. I think this is why she's puzzled by him when they first meet, he doesn't want anything from her except to find the man responsible for calling her, she doesn't quite know how to deal with him. Jane does such a wonderful job portraying Bree's tough exterior but also her deep vulnerability which she has learnt to hide.
                                    I think if this film was just about Bree and Klute it would still be superb. The scenes between them are my favourites and they have such an interesting developing relationship.
                                    Go to bed Frank or this is going to get ugly
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                                      Woodyanders — 6 years ago(November 19, 2019 01:32 AM)

                                      It's basically a character study of Bree and Klute that's done under the guise of being a thriller.
                                      You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything.

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