A 12!!! NUDITY IS NOT 12 MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Roy_Bland — 18 years ago(May 28, 2007 04:21 PM)
I can see absolutely no reason why a 7-year-old would be depraved, shocked or led astray by an artful series of shots of a nude woman. Yes, I can understand why one might have concerns about allowing somebody of that age to see a sex scene. There is, however, nothing wrong with him seeing this. Actually, the tragic suicide at the end would probably trouble somebody of that age more.
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SpookiMonkey — 18 years ago(June 14, 2007 06:47 PM)
Nudity does not automatically equal eroticism; that's in the mind of the beholder. It was a beautiful interlude and totally appropriate for
all
ages.
I agree that the suicide was far more of a shockerbut I also don't have a problem with confronting children with reality, as long as there are open lines of communication and you're ready to address their fears. Far better for them to know that the World is not always a Happy Place, but that one
can
stand up to it.
This film has haunted me for 36 years. I've only seen part of it ONCE on cable, just a few years' ago. I've got to get ahold of a copy.
Spooki* -
washcloud — 18 years ago(June 18, 2007 08:08 AM)
Here we are,in 2007,still trying to talk about nudity in movies(that wasnt sex Bill Haydon)..
Weirdest thing would be,that we wouldnt talk that much about it(or better yet we wouldnt talk about it in this "manner"),if it was nudity in some painting(especially of somebody famous),and surely we wouldn't have forbidden the 12 year old to see it and all that.
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ian-576 — 18 years ago(July 04, 2007 11:18 PM)
I saw this film with my parents when it was a new release. I was 7 years old then and I still remember seeing the "swimming" part. Now of course I am a total pervert sex-offender axe-murderer (NOT). Jeeez for f#%&* sake what's the big deal about a bit of nudity? Preventing children from seeing nudity is just unnatural. It's not like it's pornogrphy - no, just a girl having a swim, and do you think seeing some girls boobs and bush is really harmful to a child - not at all. Go back to your village pilgrim.
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Roy_Bland — 18 years ago(July 08, 2007 06:31 PM)
I know it's not a sex scene, washcloud. That was precisely my point, you cretin. I said that I saw no problem showing this scene to a young person, but by way of comparison I could understand why somebody would not wish to show a strong sex sequence to a child. Learn to read, learn to punctuate and learn to comprehend.
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guy-large — 18 years ago(July 19, 2007 02:52 PM)
I was quite 'perked' by the nude scene - but this was not becuase it was wrong in any way but rather becuase modern films have sexualised nakedness or shyed away from it coyley so much that it comes as a surprise to see it here.
That says a lot about the sad state of cinema that I should have been conditioned for this reaction, when of course, nudity is natural and I think its a beautiful thing to be comfortable with your own and others nudity.
So I think thats where the confusion comes into watching this film - in the context of our coy-or-sex-mad film environment - we think "it MUST be sexual, oh dear!". Stupid modern films. -
washcloud — 18 years ago(October 09, 2007 02:52 AM)
An-even-quick re-reading of yr original post,made me wonder how could have i misinterpeted yr words back then, Bill Haydon:You are absolutely right,u never said this was a sex scene,and im sorry i was wrong to correct u
However,especially since english isn't my native language,i think if i punctuate according to the book or not,isnt an imdb issue-its rather my own business and sure as hell isnt f yours.Respectively,it isnt yours to tell me i should learn to read,since like i stated it was merely an unfortunate happening,to have misread yr post-something tht im sure happens to everybody now and then.
Oh and as far as comprehension goes,up yours.
(cause i DID comprehend that ur a piece of u know what,for callin ppl cretins, without actually havin been called a name in the first place)
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clorimer1 — 18 years ago(December 21, 2007 07:30 PM)
I agree; Jenny is very pretty at this age. But, when you do the math (her birth 1952, movie date 1971), she was 19 when this film apparently came out. I'd say it's safe to assume that she was probably 18 or 19 when it was filmed, unless there's something I don't know!
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L0GAN5 — 18 years ago(December 22, 2007 12:44 AM)
Jesus Christ! Check the filming date under 'Business' - it says August 1969. So if you "DO THE MATH" then she was 16. She even confirms this on the Criterion DVD in which she comments that filming clashed with her O-Levels - exams you take in the UK when you are 16. I have even heard her confirm her age at the time of filming in her own words in an interview. Since she was born in December 1952 then she was only just 18 when it premiered, so you even do your sums wrong anyway.
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hallogallo — 18 years ago(December 22, 2007 03:02 PM)
Walkabout was shot in 1969 just before she filmed "the Railway Children" (the movie version) in 1969, only for British Lion show their usual respect for quality product ("the Wickerman" comes to mind) and actualy shelve it for 2 years.
If Jenny's birth date, as stated here on IMDB, is 20th December 1952 then that would almost certainly make her 16 when "Walkabout" was shot, which I feel fits in with her appearance as I would say she looks 15/16.
Thanks for bringing the point up, I've never really thought about it enough to actualy check how old she was in this film, but now I have.
"I think you're a load of old crap too, Mr Mulligan." -
poe-30 — 18 years ago(October 01, 2007 05:56 AM)
The nudity in the film was lovely, I thought. I don't worry too much about nudity of this kind. You see it very rarely anywayusually nudity in film is highly sexualized and moreover is rarely involving what I'd call emotionally healthy situations.
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cabinbread — 18 years ago(October 07, 2007 04:40 AM)
Yes, here we are in 2007 and people still get upset and offended by seeing other humans with no clothes on.
Strangely enough we are born into this world naked, yet there is a rush to cover up and never allow clothes to come off again.
In reality, the only two valid reasons for wearing clothes are:- Warmth
- Protection
If it is warm enough and we don't need protection, we don't need clothes on!
Just like this bizarre need to put clothes on in order to get them wet - as in swimming. Why do it? Do you put clothes on to take a shower or a bath?
Swimming naked is the most natural thing to do, and this movie is no exception in that respect.
Putting clothes on to swim is like some freudian extension of needing clothes on when it's warm.
A strange behaviour, sadly exhibited by a large percentage of society.
As for nudity not being suitable for children, it's not the kids that have a problem with it. It's the parents with the hangups that "think" that their kids are going to be traumatised for life if they happen to see a bare bum or some titties.
Most kids have no issue with nudity - why would they? After all, it's not until a parent with hangups teaches them that there is something wrong and shameful about the human body that a child begins to think otherwise.
I say we need more movies that show a natural and simple way of life!
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kissmyarrrtichoke — 18 years ago(October 30, 2007 09:22 AM)
'PG' films with some nudity
Man with a Golden Gun
(1974) - brief
Kramer vs Kramer
(1979) - moderate
A Room with a View
(1985) - 'brief' nudity yeah right.
Manon des Sources
(1986) - brief
The Fifth Element
(1997) - brief
These are just those I've seen. Male nudity is normally 'worse' and so some films with the same amount of male nudity in one film as female nudity in another film are often rated higher for some reason.
The BBFC - nudity in films rated '12'
Nudity is allowed, but in a sexual context must be brief and discreet.
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hallogallo — 18 years ago(December 10, 2007 12:56 PM)
Off the top of my head here, to add to the above list, are a few more UK PG movies with nudity:
(looks towards own video/dvd collection)
La Rayon Vert - plently of moderate nudity (ie topless bathers) during a scene on a beach
Le Beau Mariage - brief full-frontal female who is also seen in from the back while taking a shower
My Life As a Dog - brief female full-frontal
Amadeus - brief male full-frontal
Jaberwocky - brief full-frontal female (same woman also seen topless and "from behind"), also features Michael Palin's arse (on the back of the video sleeve LOL!)
Orlando - moderate (and essential to plot) full-frontal female
Cinema Paradiso (original cut) - brief topless female (not to mention a shot of some young men in the cinema obviously masturbating over Brigette Bardot)
From Russia With Love - brief shot of naked woman getting into Bond's bed
Carry On Behind - prolonged "from behind" shot of embarrased naked female exposed when shower cubicle door falls off, earlier in the movie a cine film of a topless dancer is accidently shown at an educational lecture. "Carry On Behind" also features a brief shot of Kenneth William's behind)
Carry On Nurse - naked woman in bath is repeatedly disturbed by people climbing in through her bathroom window
Carry On Abroad - Barbara Windsor is seen naked in the shower
Carry On Camping - opening scene features 2 couples watching a movie about a nudist colony (I recognise the movie but can't name it) with some added close-up footage of a topless woman "discovering" the camp
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen - naked woman seen from behind and soon after lounging in a hammock, plus a blatant Uma Thurman nipple slip
Munchhausen - m-a-n-y topless woman seen during the harem scene (and this was made in 1943 LOL)
The Charge of the Light Brigade - topless woman in bathhouse
Pop Scene (R.E.M. video collection) - "Pop Song '89" features 3 topless female dancers
Big Fish - brief very moderate female nudity and shot of Danny DeVito's arse
I am sure there are more, even in my collection (just spotted my Werner Herzog/Klaus Kinski DVD boxset, so you can add "Fitzcaraldo" and "Cobra Verde" to the list)
It's worth noting that during the 80's both "Carry On Camping" and "Carry On Behind" where regularly shown uncut on the BBC as Saturday afternoon filler.
Also, the "Universal" rated movie "Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger" features a prolonged nude bathing scene featuring the 2 female leads.
"I think you're a load of old crap too, Mr Mulligan." -
barrellrider — 18 years ago(December 27, 2007 10:21 AM)
Notice the aboriginal women who find the car. They are topless, a natural state in many cultures. She tries to hide her breasts from the boy, but that means nothing to him. She is skinny dipping and he is working. Sex for him is procreation. He has not time to skinny dip, except at the end, and that is fantasy or maybe even heaven without all our hangups about nudity.