Are they homosexuals?
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chedda18 — 20 years ago(January 02, 2006 02:30 PM)
An excellent film one of my childhood favourites , i too considered a career when i was 15 but the thought lasted about a minute ! The gay bit is irrelevant cant say i noticed it, like Hardy kissing Nelson followed by years if ribbing ! Anyway a way cool movie full five stars . BRONSON=JILL IRELAND in my world (is that right ?)
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shark-43 — 18 years ago(February 13, 2008 06:17 PM)
Kinda funny how MANY responses there are to this - I truly believe you could type the same question into ANY of the other message boards where there are two male leads and just watch the clucking and debating. I think ANY person can claim there are gay undertones in ANY film - you can see what you want to see. I dont feel there are in this particular film (it is a well made actioner) but heck - Butch Cassidy and Sundance? Clooney & Pitt in Ocean's 11? (I dont think so - just trying to illustrate the point)
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Tarasicodissa — 18 years ago(August 13, 2007 05:10 PM)
Who sent Steve that file ?
The file is identical to those he receives for his own assignments.
Wasn't Bishop just criticized for the messiness of the hit on the drug dealer ? His superior are losing confidence in him. They suspect he is past his prime. Losing his touch. And he does know too much. Steve is given the assignment of hitting him to 'retire' him.
Steve was connected through his family. The same boss Bishop reported to ("Nobody lives forever") sent Steve his new assignment. -
crisotto — 19 years ago(June 09, 2006 10:38 PM)
The characters "The Mechanic" are as gay as the main characters in "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot" that is to say, very gay indeed and if I may say so, rather obviously so. The whole film in fact, plays a gay porno without any actual sex. Until you have seen "The Mechanic" (or "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot" for that matter) play in a bar full of out and happy gays you simply haven't seen the film. And as far as that goes, from my experience Charles Bronson was always a bit of a gay icon, and I thought Jan Michaels Vincents fan base wasz entirely gay.
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tdf5g — 19 years ago(August 03, 2006 12:38 PM)
Bishop and McKenna are never shown sleeping in the same house in the CA scenes.
In the Naples sequence we assume they are sharing a room, as only one is shown, but this could be Bishop's room and McKenna had his own room. -
hegstad9 — 19 years ago(August 25, 2006 04:38 PM)
At the time Charles Bronson were being carefully built up in Hollywood as the new super action hero. He was already very popular overseas after his European movies, and now Hollywood wanted in !
Gay ?
That would have ruined his image completely ! No way Hollywood producers would ever allow the upcoming biggest action hero in the world to even hint at being gay ! And I can't picture Bronson wishing to appear in any gay part in any movie. -
s-longhurst1 — 19 years ago(October 20, 2006 11:11 AM)
I was suprised to see this thread on a 1972 film. Which I thought was excellent by the way.
I recently attended a Michael Winner film retrospective and talk, from what I remember, he said when the script first came to him it had Burt Lancaster and Richard Dreyfuss pencilled in and a heavy homo subtext, obviously it underwent changes prior to being greenlighted.
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he also said when Death Wish came to him it had Walter Mattheau pencilled in and he stood up to the studio's and suggested Bronson.
Just thought I say.
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sunfloweriii — 19 years ago(October 23, 2006 03:20 AM)
off-topic a bitbut oddly, Jan-Michael Vincent was the first choice for the Hooper character in Jaws (1) and Richard Dreyfuss ended up with the part, which I thought he was perfect in. Although maybe Vincent would've added a little sex-appeal in a movie sorely lacking it. So it seems the Hollywood dance works out in the end. I could never see Dreyfuss as McKenna in The Mechanic. Bronson was brilliant in the role but the arrogant upstartthe spoiled rich kid with everything he could ever wantcold and iceywith a taste for killing, really fit and made this film a classic..
Reading this thread has me in stitches. But seriously, I would have to agree with the "asexual" theory. Both men had very artificial relationships with womenBronson with a hooker who fabricated a real relationship which did not exist. For Vincent, he appears to care about his girlfriend when on the phone he declares her accusations of "not caring" as being sillyand yet later he coldly watches her attempt suicide. Was it a psycopathic personaluty or an effort to prove to Bronson that he could "pick up the tab" have the aptitute to be a "mechanic"? Later, Vincent claims that he has spent time with this same girlfriend having sex.
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gaijin1-1 — 19 years ago(November 30, 2006 02:25 PM)
what's silly is that it's obvious that hardly anyone ever takes the time to actually read through the posts before responding.
upon first reading the parent post, i thought to myself that i never picked up on any homosexual undertones when watching this movie in the past. however, i admit i never read the novel. from some of the previous posts i understand that the original story did portray the characters as being gay. this theme carried over into the original treatments of the script, but was eventually edited out.
assuming that the critic had either read or was familiar of the original storybut that doesn't make his critique right, if you're a movie reviewer then you have to critique the movie and disregard the book version. -
sunfloweriii — 19 years ago(December 05, 2006 09:57 AM)
Obviouslywhatever "The Mechanic" was in it's original form, in the film version, it was clearly depicting 2 heterosexuals. And if anything, Bronson portrayed an almost fatherly mentor to the Vincent character. The devil finding a little demon to pass the torch toalbeit a very cute demon.