Other movies that follow the life of a killer/sociopath
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bigbadwolf666 — 15 years ago(May 28, 2010 03:47 PM)
thanks for clearing that out. i really didnt understand what he said or get that point of the movie. i always thought it had to do with his dad or he was hired by an organization to do a hit on him.
I guess that goes consistent with the rest of his character. This makes it a social commetating where you cant be better with the organization but you cant live without them.
You've fallen in love with all the things in life that destroy men! -
ccr1633 — 15 years ago(August 12, 2010 11:04 AM)
rexcrammer wrote:
" If there is no contract, then Steve is just killing random people for fun. Kind of strange and somewhat of a hole in the plot."
I think Steve's point was that he would decline certain contracts if he wanted to, picking his own marks in that sense. Why he would want to be so choosy is a mystery. I think the movie was just trying to channel the spirit of rebellious youth of the times. -
rexcrammer — 15 years ago(August 12, 2010 06:40 PM)
It was also a little bit of a mystery to me as to why the Organization did not like the idea of Steve working as a hit man for them. I thought Bishop had a point when he told the "Man" that someone trained by him would be of value to them. But perhaps it simply necessary to move the story along and create the drama and action sequences.
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tensaip — 15 years ago(February 02, 2011 04:18 AM)
Steve being a true sociopath is his entire purpose for being in the story. That's not a plot hole, that's a plot point. Arthur is giving Steve the training Steve needs to kill ARTHUR! You can tell exactly when Arthur gets the inspiration to make Steve his associate when Steve tells the suicidal Louise: "if you don't care about your own life, why should I?" The entire first hour of the movie was devoted to demonstrating how Arthur's physical body is still a well-honed machine, but he's psychologically fragmenting. He has many authentic paintings in his home but the only one the audience sees him paying mind to is a copy of Hieronymus Bosch's THE LAST JUDGMENT. He collapses while visting an aquarium, when seeing the fish trapped behind glass triggers his own anxiety over being trapped in his way of life. And his "teaching" lectures are actually Existentialist musings to justify his continued living to himself.
Arthur found the dossier Steve was preparing about him BEFORE leaving for Italy, but took Steve along anyway. AND he booby-trapped Steve's car. If Arthur was living by the existentialist principals he was espousing to Steve, he would not have cared what Steve would be up to after Arthur's death. He snuffed Steve because he never trusted Steve not to misuse his training. In other words, Arthur had set up a trap that would have killed Steve regardless of the circumstances of Arthur's death. -
infinity8 — 14 years ago(January 01, 2012 12:57 AM)
That's an interesting view on the aquarium, tensaip. I thought that Bishop's issues at the aquarium had to do with his memories of falling in the lake as a child.
Forgive me for being picky, but when Bishop looks at the painting, he is studying the middle portion of Bosch's triptych "The Garden of Earthly Delights," not the Last Judgement portion. The middle portion depicts people enjoying all sorts of fruit and sex and sex with people who have heads of fruit and other weird stuff. It represents indulging pleasures and living in a state of sin. That fits nicely with your point that Bishop does care what Steve does after Bishop's death, and it suggests that Bishop feels a bit guilty about his trade, which is probably the cause of his psychological problems. -
ciphoid_9 — 18 years ago(July 09, 2007 09:18 AM)
A few recommendations from the top of my head (no particular order):
Le Samoura
Blast of Silence
The Day of the Jackal
(only the original version with Edward Fox!)
Ghost Dog
Lon
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
C'est arriv prs de chez vous -
Serpico1988 — 18 years ago(March 23, 2008 11:46 AM)
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J. Spurlin — 15 years ago(August 09, 2010 07:34 AM)
Columbia Pictures Film Noir Classics
Volume 1 has a few you might like.
Murder by Contract
(1958) follows the life of a hitman with more than a few similarities to the Charles Bronson character in this film.
The Sniper
(1952) follows the life of a serial killer with the urge to pick off women from afar.
The Lineup
(1958) shows us a day in the life of a hit man and his psychopathic protege (Eli Wallach).
I agree with the recommendations of
Lon
and
Blast of Silence
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Justin -
ccr1633 — 15 years ago(August 12, 2010 11:08 AM)
If you like comic books you might enjoy "The Killer" by Luc Jacamon. And for the record, "The Day of the Jackal" is in my opinion the best of the movies that follows around a contract killer (though a sizable amount of the film focuses on the police who are hunting him).