ALRIGHT MAYBE IM JUST STUPID(WHICH IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY)BUT I DONT UNDERSTAND THE ENDINGHERES THE SEQUENCESTEVE POI
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tallen0915 — 15 years ago(December 19, 2010 08:24 PM)
Actually everyone needs to watch the end of the movie a little closer. The bomb is in the ball of wax that Arthur used as a stress reliever. Even more improbable, becaause what if Steve never picked it up?
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jetliner-theduke — 15 years ago(December 20, 2010 03:38 PM)
Well, I've watched this movie and really picked it apart. Although I have the novel, and 2 working drafts of the script (One very close to the filming start dateit's only missing the scene in the Wax Museum)there is no mention of the bomb being connected to the ball of wax.
However!!! I did watch the scene, and YESthe way the camera shots are edited in that scene with the ball is very specific. I'm gonna side with you on this one. In the novel and the working drafts of the script and even the liner notes to the CD of the Jerry Fielding soundtrackthere is a sub text to the relationship between Bishop and Steve McKenna, essentially that Steve wanted to become "Bishop". So its not all that improbable to the ever thoughtful Bishop that Steve would return to the house in Los Angeles and take over. (Ironically ..the first to the last piece of music on the soundtrack CD is entitled "Steve Takes Over".) And, of course pick up that ball of wax.
One other point even thought some people may disagree with your theory.. that in the scripts I have and the novel, there is no specific details on what the explosive was or how it was rigged to work. Only what is in the mote on the dashboard mirror..so the possibilities of the workings of Bishop's final "hit" are open to interpretation.
So, I'll just close for now by saying (and please pardon this horrible pun) I think you may have touched on a whole other "ball of wax" here
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rexcrammer — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 07:13 PM)
I think you are making it more complicated then it is. Bishop knew Steve would have to return to the house to retrieve his car. He placed the note in the car and the bomb under the seat with the trigger connected to the car door. Bishop even says in the note that Steve broke a filament connected to a 13 second delay trigger. 13 seconds being just about the amount of time to open the door, read the note, and Bang!!
A bomb in a ball of wax would have been too complicated and there is no certainty that Steve would have picked it up. Bishop did not plan hits leaving things to chance. Remember his line "dead sure or dead." Steve picking up his car was foreseeable.
Additionally, Steve picked up the ball of wax in Bishops house. If the explosive was attached to the ball of wax then why didn't it blow up in the house? Also if you watch the explosion in slow motion, it seems to blow upwards and out. Just like a bomb placed under the seat would behave.
I think the focus on the wax ball in the end was reinforcing the idea that Steve planned to take over Bishops life. Adapt some of his mannerisms and style. The ball of wax was a symbol of that. -
mondieu21 — 15 years ago(March 19, 2011 09:20 PM)
Lol, no, it wasn't.
Read rexcrammer's post again, he got it all right.
Did you guys even watch the movie?
It was written on the damn note that he triggered the bomb by pulling a string when he opened the car door.
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rogerdemarco30 — 14 years ago(April 10, 2011 07:09 AM)
The note never said thatit said that he broke a 'filament'. It also mentioned a 13-second delay trigger was used and 13 seconds doesn't elapse between the time of the door opening and the bomb going off.
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porsche1974-1 — 14 years ago(April 16, 2011 10:01 PM)
Will all people claiming the bomb was in the ball of wax please line up
so I can shoot them for not paying attention and being stupid!
Bomb in a ball of wax! Really? Hmmm. Hmmm.
'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives. Use it. Save a life. -
moon-girl — 14 years ago(August 24, 2011 12:47 AM)
Well, it doesn't take him 13 seconds to pick up the ball of wax, stroll out to the car and read the entire note either. Why would Arthur put a bomb in the ball of wax, which is inside of the house, and leave a note about it in the car? It's obvious he wanted to let him know what was coming, why else write the note? How could he have been sure that he would have had to time to get out to the car and read the note before the bomb went off? I didn't actually time it, but 13 sounds about right to open up a car door, get in, read a note, and start to panic. I think the only significance the ball of wax has is that it shows how Steve was trying to usurp his life.
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djensen1 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 06:17 PM)
Yes, from the time Steve opens the car door to the time the bomb explodes is 13 seconds, so clearly the filament is attached to the car door. The ball of wax is just symbolic of Steve's desire to emulate Arthur.