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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Dillinger


    Jetfire59 — 20 years ago(June 08, 2005 02:06 PM)

    I have a lot of respect for Ben Johnson. I cannot count all the fine films I've seen him in. That being said, watch him closely as he fires his "Tommy Gun" in a few scenes in this movie. He was extremely awkward. I've been told by a veteran friend that the Thompson Submachine gun is extremely loud and kicks like an angel dusted mule. I guess Mr. Johnson needed more practice with it.
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        Kugelspritz — 20 years ago(February 21, 2006 05:00 PM)

        " It also has a tendency to climb up and to the left when firing full auto"
        Dont most automatic weapons have this tendency, to one degree or another, when firing on full-auto?

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            filmbuff-36 — 19 years ago(April 17, 2006 01:10 PM)

            I feel it actually adds to the film. Yes, it does look a bit ackward, especially that one burst Johnson shoots off during the Little Bohemia shootout after screaming "Get the second floor window!"
            However, I take into consideration that Johnson's character Melvin Purvis was an old school law enforcement officer, having been born in the 1800's, so a Tommy Gun would be a "newfangled gizmo" to him. He wouldn't be as used to handling it as he would a handgun.

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              A_Minor_Blip — 19 years ago(July 26, 2006 11:01 PM)

              it's more realistic when actors shoot guns like humans and not like superheroes

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                james_oblivion — 16 years ago(December 09, 2009 01:50 AM)

                However, I take into consideration that Johnson's character Melvin Purvis was an old school law enforcement officer, having been born in the 1800's, so a Tommy Gon would be a "newfangled gizmo" to him.
                Actually, Melvin Purvis was born in 1903, and was a former lawyer, who had joined the Bureau of Investigation in 1927. He was most certainly NOT an "old school law enforcement officer." He was a mere 30 years old in 1933, and had only been in law enforcement for six years.

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                    Hancock_the_Superb — 16 years ago(January 01, 2010 07:50 AM)

                    Nobody brought up Public Enemies but you CJ.
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                      Jetfire59 — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 05:55 PM)

                      I agree completely about the realistic aspect. It's logical to assume that Mr.Purvis wouldn't have used a Tommy Gun on any kind of regular basis.
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                          Englehorn — 19 years ago(October 21, 2006 12:17 AM)

                          Ive done some work and used a few thompsons,especially the 1928s as used in the movie.They usually go straight up.the kick isnt really to bad,its the muzzle climb that is the killer.In some situations with the gun you wouldnt need to be accurate.Just use it to get a shotgun effect. One thing I did like about the movie,most of the scenes using the guns were believeable,its a bit hard to tell they are using blanks.

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                            Conspirator_Slash — 17 years ago(March 05, 2009 09:03 AM)

                            Johnson is great. Johnson and Oates together: all we need. I need to re-watch this; saw it many years ago, when I was into the gangster genre, but at that time, I liked slow-paced epics like Godfather better.

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                              SeanJoyce — 16 years ago(April 23, 2009 08:21 AM)

                              I liked fast-paced epics like Godfather better.
                              The Godfather
                              fast-paced! Hardy har.
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                              if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street.
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                                Hancock_the_Superb — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 05:33 PM)

                                After rewatching today I definitely agree, although I don't think it was limited to Johnson. It looked like all the guys playing FBI agents needed some practice with their weapons.
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                                  telegonus — 14 years ago(November 09, 2011 11:29 AM)

                                  I generally like Ben Johnson, don't care at all for his Melvin Purvis in
                                  Duillinger
                                  . Maybe this is the director's fault. He comes off as smug, lacks authority. Mr. Johnson could steal scenes with the best of 'em in supporting roles but in
                                  Dillinger
                                  , where director John Milius "hands over" several scenes to Johnson, he doesn't seem up to the job.

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                                    wtl471629 — 13 years ago(August 22, 2012 01:14 PM)

                                    Ben Johnson was a great actor and was excellent in this movie even though he was actually much taller than the real Melvin Purvis. But I guess there is generally a tolerance in movies between the real thing and the reel thing.

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                                      !!!deleted!!! (29378721) — 10 years ago(October 07, 2015 04:32 AM)

                                      I thought he was too old for Purvis, he was 54 and the real Purvis was meant to be 30-31 at the time of the great depression era, I always thought that Jack Nicholson would had been a great choice, he may have been pricey but he would have done a great job than Johnson

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