so was McMurphy actually crazy?
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InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 01:15 PM)
Maybe you are not savvy to the inner-working of the mind. To be "nuts", as you say, is vague. We don't know if he was just angry or actually attempted to murder her, as such. For example, if I witnessed you kill my loved one, my hands would be around your throat also, whether I intended to kill you or not.
But that's not why he attacked Ratched; he attacked her because the young killed himself over the ordeal provoked by Ratched, not just for fear of getting into trouble with him mom. -
tyrexden — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:48 AM)
ok if not nuts, then still criminally violent. Being angry is not an excuse. Yes, there are laws that speak to being a crime of passion, but he'd still get charged with manslaughter or murder in the 2nd degree (had she died).
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znapper — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 04:26 AM)
Well, since we are in the closing days of the IMDB-board, why not try to contribute?
After a recent viewing with my girlfriend, I concluded that I think McMyrphy was a nutter actually, and I think he had a moment of realization as well:
I have always wondered why they didn't leave the last night, when the party ended.
The window was open, the car was there, just gather the girls and go, or go alone.
In the scene where McMyrphy sits in the chair, drunk and half asleep, you can see that he seems to be reflecting about this situation, and his new found friends and seem to think for himself yeah..maybe he is a little crazy, maybe he belongs here after all?
it's not so bad after all, this institution, he belongs and can be himself (pretty crazy) with no consequences.
Then he falls asleep and the ending of the film draws near.
At least that's my conclusion, why else would he just fall asleep like that without a care in the world?
Can someone explain why he didn't leave? Did he have the same issue as the chief, nor daring to leave after all? -
The_White_Hotel — 9 years ago(February 08, 2017 10:53 AM)
He was waiting for Candy to finish with Billy. He falls asleep because he's been up all night drinking. McMurphy hated the asylum and the restrictions it placed on his liberty. There's no way he wanted to remain there.
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znapper — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 01:50 AM)
I think that is too easy, he wasn't that attached to Billy.
But it's even simpler, apparently.
They just got drunk and overslept, but it don't come across too well in the film.
it's explained better in the book.
http://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/45423/why-didnt-mcmurphy-escape
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The_White_Hotel — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 11:04 AM)
He wasn't waiting for Billy who had already said he wasn't going with them, he was waiting for Candy who was (presumably she wouldn't fancy the idea of sticking around to get arrested in the morning). But yes, he did get drunk and fall asleep, but Candy was the reason he waited at all.
These are the only words I have, I'm stuck with them, stuck in them
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