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He killed himself over his mother finding out that he slept with a girl?

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    diehappy — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 01:17 AM)

    Just watched it the other day after a couple of years and in my head two new theories emegered that would take Ratchets behaviour to a whole new level of insanity:
    -she convinced Billy mother (given her manipulative skills) to send her son to her instiution and was working on that for years, maybe because she doesn't have children on her own or anyone in her life and sees him as a son who she can take care forever
    -she actually IS Billy's mother and the "a mothers friend" thing is just used between them both to hide their relationship in front of the other inhabitants. It would also explain why she seems so personal attacked by him making out with Candy and sees it as a personal betrayal to his motherly love and a possibility of him leaving the institution and therefore her control for good.
    What do you think of that?

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      SnoozeAlarm — 10 years ago(January 22, 2016 02:31 PM)

      I didn't want my mom to know when I lost my virginity. & I was 21. not contemplating suicide or anything, but I sure was upset & nervous at the possibility of her finding out.
      I lost my virginity to my mother, so it's not like I could prevent her finding out.
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        I_Love_Hutch — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 12:40 AM)

        Snooze Alarm, you lost your virginity to your mother? Are you serious? If so, you have my deepest sympathies and I can only hope you have transitioned to adulthood without too much pain.

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          PenTheater — 9 years ago(June 12, 2016 12:37 PM)

          Is your mom Kay Parker?
          Ephemeron.

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            Makeagoodmovie — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 08:44 PM)

            Snooze alarm we have something in common, I lost my virginity to your mother too, but SHE was 21.
            'Truth is like poetry. And most people beep hate poetry.

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              SnoozeAlarm — 9 years ago(July 18, 2016 03:36 AM)

              Well, the truth is that quite a few guys lost their virginity to my mother. So I was in good company.
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                ida96 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 06:26 PM)

                I thought I was worldly, but this comment proves otherwise.

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                  LadyLovie — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 01:34 PM)

                  if that's true SnoozeALARM. u didn't lose ur virginity. u were RAPED! sorry to read this.


                  child please

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                    Gus-69 — 10 years ago(July 14, 2015 05:43 PM)

                    It seems to me you didn't realize Billy had MENTAL problems.

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                      biddle2 — 10 years ago(July 18, 2015 04:44 PM)

                      Billy's mother is the core of his problems. The book spells it out a little better. She treats him like a young child to keep herself youthful in her own mind.
                      She would have really raked him over the coals if she found out, and he just couldn't take it.
                      Whoever suggested Ratchet was his mother, should reread the book.

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                        diehappy — 10 years ago(July 30, 2015 04:43 AM)

                        books are one thing, and the significant fundation for a film that stands very well for its own. No need to read the book to fill gaps which were obviously left open by the screenwriter and Forman. Because we do not know for sure its all up to speculation however the relationship between Billy and his "mother" really was. After all, both the characters of the novel as well as in the film are pure fictional, its up to everyone which illusion they are falling for.

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                          KZABS-1 — 10 years ago(August 11, 2015 12:04 AM)

                          It was pretty obvious that Billy had severe anxiety & emotional disturbance surrounding his relationship with his mother. The movie doesn't get into the specifics but it is enough to know he is very upset about his mother finding out & Ratched knows this & uses it to wind Billy up.
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                            MrsMonroe74 — 10 years ago(September 23, 2015 10:06 AM)

                            that bitch probably just wanted something to hold over Billy's head. might not had any intentions on really telling his mom. but look what happened?
                            the bitch.


                            he left u NAKED in a DITCH!

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                              slschramm — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 11:24 AM)

                              This scene shows Billy as a mentally ill person and Nurse Ratchett as a controlling, evil, manipulating, c-word. Notice Billy was not stuttering at all when he was talking with everyone about what he had done and then once Nurse Ratchett brings up Billy's mother, the stuttering rears it's ugly head.

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                                Redart27 — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 11:39 AM)

                                I suspect the mother was more abusively evil and a greater mental tormentor than Nurse Wretched

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                                  somesunnyday — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 11:02 PM)

                                  Haven't you ever heard of "mother issues" before? Poor Billy was obviously brought up by a domineering mother, who happens to be best buddies with Ratched of all people, and probably instilled a strong sense of guilt in him from a very young age.

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                                    abhinavjain — 9 years ago(June 10, 2016 09:18 PM)

                                    Deep seeded feelings of Shame, Guilt and Anxiety have a power of their own and can make you do strange things knowingly or unknowingly.

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                                      The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 10:23 AM)

                                      Uh there was a reason why the kid was in the institution, and Ratched knew how to set him off. She just couldn't take it that McMurphy had cured him of his lack of confidence and stutter so she had to knock him down by threatening to tell his mother.
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                                        roman2886 — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 11:54 AM)

                                        I never wondered why he killed himself in the first place.

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                                          Sequentialist — 9 years ago(December 14, 2016 05:17 PM)

                                          He's crazy dude.

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