Leaving out the rape
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Freddyfan951 — 10 years ago(January 21, 2016 10:54 PM)
I just started reading the book after seeing this, and the orderlies raping the patients was a big part of it, it was even in the first sentence and pages. I know that tackling such a subplot of male on male rape would have probably been far too transgressive, and would have conflicted with the light-hearted aspects of the film.
Was anyone else a little disappointed at this, or at least wondering what would have been different had the adaptation covered this as well, even in the form of subtle suggestions? -
SnoozeAlarm — 10 years ago(January 22, 2016 12:25 PM)
There's a beep load of stuff left out of the book. To single this one element out of all the other stuff that was left out doesn't make sense to me.
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Freddyfan951 — 10 years ago(January 23, 2016 11:49 PM)
I am aware of the change in perspective from Chief to McMurphy, but I bring this up specifically because I am a few chapters into the book right now, and this is the biggest change I have noticed so far. When I complete it, I will be aware of everything else they left out.
Also, I don't see why focusing on one thing at a time, even if it is uncomfortable, is a bad thing, especially one that would drastically alter the tone of the film. -
jaseace — 9 years ago(July 03, 2016 12:20 AM)
Hell youd be surprised how often it happens. My friend works at a mental health complex and he tells me all the stuff that happens. Staff screwing even sometimes raping the patients. Patients raping other patients. No wonder they never get better its just like a big lockdown adult day care center. The world is too much and they end up there then really get messed up even more.
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tyrexden — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 10:59 AM)
Didn't know about it but glad they left it out. It would've become a main plot point to symbolize how messed up the hospital was, when in reality, it was not required to have communicated that point.
They go way more into Andy's rape in the Shawshank book too, but the movie deftly covered it in whispers. -
Freddyfan951 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 11:21 PM)
I would have to agree. But I wonder if implying it would have been more better to do. After the party, Taber's reaction to the orderly that got him might hint at it, but that's probably just me.
If they ever did remake it, it would be alot more messed up if they made it from Chief's perspective and included his hallucinations what the orderlies were doing. -
LadyLovie — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 01:42 PM)
that goes over my head every time. I read the book twice. on this message board, a few ppl say it's subtlety dropped patients r being raped by orderlies in the beginning. guess I have to read it 1 more time.
child please
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Bloom6000 — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 05:27 PM)
What happened to Baccini ("I'm tired!") after the first group therapy? You can hear him yelling "get your hands off me!" and the orderlies saying "get a hold of his legs!"
Was he getting raped or just physically restrained? -
tohu — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 07:52 PM)
McMurphy is a pedo
Hs is indeed. This is mentioned in the script. The whole reason he is at the hospital at all is because he has been convicted of having sex with a 15 year old girl, and the authorities want to assess whether he is insane so they know how to sentence him. All this is mentioned in the scene in the doctors office.
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