Plot makes no sense, not a good movie
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Carrie
TVippy — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 07:20 AM)
Technically wise it's well shot and all for a 1976 movie (although the "psycho squikings" do get on my nerves hard).
However the "villains" in this movie had no motivation for their actions. What really was that drove Chris to go as far as killing a pig and drowning her classmate that didn't really do anything to her in blood? In reality, the thing with the blood would lead to dealing with police and not just some detention time - Chris and Travolta would be stupid to not realize that (they didn't even try to cover up the fact that they're the culprits). Was Chris mentally ill? We aren't shown any signs of that. Chris trying to run Carrie over with the car is, again, going too far.
Futhermore, I think movie wants us to sympathise with Carrie, but how can you, when she's a monster? She's at fault, as she kills everybody mercilessly (~100 people?) just because she's had enough? Even the people who were nice to her. Then violently kills her mother. If you defend her millions of people go through bullying in schools (waaaaay more severe in many cases, than Carrey, mind you), do they all have the right kill?
And what's with the ending? We're led to believe the devil took both Carrie and her mother?I own you.
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ElectricWarlock — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 04:20 PM)
I feel like Chris and Billy were just stupid teenagers who don't think about the consequences of things before they do them. They just act first and think later. Chris saw nothing wrong with her bullying. In her mind, Carrie was the bad one and she didn't deserve to be put in detention and have her prom privileges taken away. It was all Carrie's fault rather than her own so she wanted to get revenge in a huge way for the "injustice" committed against her. I got the impression Chris was the type of person who believed she could do no wrong. Being very popular probably reinforced this idea. Her method of "revenge" was drastic but she felt whatever she did was justified.
Also, I do feel sorry for Carrie because her bullying didn't just end at school. It continued at home. Home should be a place where you finally get a break from bullying and be able to finally be yourself without fear of being judged. But with her mother that wasn't the case. She couldn't even walk the streets without being screamed at (such is the case with that little boy). So while I don't condone what she did I can see why she did it. One person can only deal with so much.
Also, she was just starting to learn what her power really was. Throughout the movie her powers were strongest at highly emotional states. Being so brutally hurt and humiliated, there's the possibility that she lost control over her powers and surprised even herself. I don't think she could've stopped it even if she wanted to.
And I interpreted the ending as just a dream. A way of letting the audience leave with one final shock so they walk out of the theater still feeling scared. New movies do that kind of thing all the time. Anyways, I think this is a great movie and one I could watch a hundred times. -
TVippy — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 12:27 PM)
Thanks to everybody for all the answers!
However, I must clarify: by the end sequence I definitely didn't mean the dream (with the grabbing hand). I meant the "pre-ending" where the house was sinking into the ground - that's the sequence I wasn't sure about the meaning of.OCD predator:
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capellett-462-613136 — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 08:36 PM)
Chris and Billy are standard bad-kid teenagers. I've known juveniles with records would make your hair fall out. That's at worst. At best, they're bullies not unlike those who have mass-distributed sexts that 12-year-old girls were teased into sending, thereby driving the victim to suicide. There's a reason 18 is the legal age for many things. Your brain just can't comprehend consequences hormones effectively reset your brain at puberty to its toddler state, complete with total lack of impulse control.
Combine that with perhaps beep home lives or, sure, mental illness and you've got two beep like Chris and Billy. If you've watched Stranger Things, you're familiar with Tommy and Carol. Same thing.
Chris I think has genuine regrets and just has a bitchy temperament that makes her go too far. Pride up the wazoo. She is chagrined by the gym teacher many times but refuses to show it.
Billy is just a future convict driven by his dick, plain and simple.
At any rate, Chris' intent is not to kill Carrie, just humiliate her. People like that can't see things as their own fault. In her mind, if Carrie hadn't existed, she'd be at prom. Irrational, yeah, but not outside the realm of probable.
As a woman, I feel I can say, some bitches be crazy sometimes.
And yes, the end was a dream. I believe it was added to the movie, and didn't end like that in the book. -
LadyDi4476 — 9 years ago(October 27, 2016 12:56 PM)
Chris wasn't mentally ill she was just a spoiled brat who was used to getting her way. She hated Carrie for numerous reasons I'm sure like causing a scene over getting her period. Instead of taking the punishment she had to whine about it thus getting toss out of the prom. To her everything is Carrie's fault. Billy is just a borderline psycho path.
I feel sorry for Carrie up until she goes crazy and kills everyone. She doesn't seem to feel any remorse either. The first thing she says to her mother after she gets home is "they all laughed me". She's not even thinking about all the classmates she just killed.
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Centralline92 — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 03:45 PM)
I still felt sorry for Carrie even
after
she killed everyone. It was obvious things were not going to go well for her after that. I mean, the whole thing's a tragedy for everyone concerned. That's what makes it so effective. She actually says to her mother "I'm
scared
momma, they laughed at me" which to me was an indication of guilt. Particularly the
way
she said it. She was completely falling apart at that point and just wanted to be held by her mother. To me, it was like she was terrified by what she'd just done.
Two seats in the back of the cinema, hazy. Ah yeah, you're forgettin' it and all the mad beep we did -
Imdb11168 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:39 PM)
I still felt sorry for Carrie even after she killed everyone.
Ridiculous, how can you say such a thing
and since we are being ridiculous, i might as well say that the religious chick needed some alcohol and she would have been a monster in bed
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mizhub — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 07:28 PM)
She doesn't seem to feel any remorse either. The first thing she says to her mother after she gets home is "they all laughed me."
Not true. The first thing she says to her mother is, 'Hold me Mama. PLEASE hold me.' And then she mentions they all laughed at her, which goes back to before Carrie went to the prom and her mother said, 'They're all gonna LAUGH at you!'
And as someone who was treated as a 'Carrie' throughout almost all my entire school years, I can say that it doesn't matter what the OTHERS look or act like, as long as they're on the right side of the clique. -
TVippy — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:03 AM)
Slightly more so, because of a simpler premise. But Predator is good for other reasons.
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Born_Tomorrow — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 01:00 PM)
I thought you were going to say that it made no sense for Carrie to actually believe that her crazy ass was voted Prom Queen by a bunch of cruel ass holes that had just tormented her for starting her period and I think it's pretty safe to say that they had been treating her like sh!t for a while. However, somehow she got it through her head that they all did a 180 and voted for her because she put on a dress and some lipstick. That's the part that didn't make any sense to me.
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KingTrump — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 03:43 PM)
Remember the scene where Mrs. White throws her drink in Carrie's face at the dinner table? Carrie said she wanted to change, she wanted to be more like normal people. Carrie was willing to forget the past and go to the prom. And becoming the queen was her chance to finally break through.
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TVippy — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 09:12 AM)
I agree, her believeing they voted her a queen was unbelievable too.
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fiatlux-1 — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 07:36 PM)
Why do people need motivation for doing evil? The sad thing is: They don't.
Chris tormented Carrie because she was a vicious person & she enjoyed it. Billy was also vicious. The novel explains it in more detail, he was almost more evil than Chris herself. He would run over stray dogs for his own amusement, and also beat Chris up.
Carrie was different, and different is not accepted well by others.
I know, because I had 'a Chris Hargensen' growing up. Her name was Emma.
She too had her crowd of moron followers, and they teased & tortured me for no reason at all except for fun.
I agree with you about feeling sympathy for Carrie.
While I felt bad for Carrie being so tormented & lonely.I didn't end up feeling all THAT sorry for her. She killed innocent people, and so what if she 'snapped'. That's no justification.
She was dumb, she should have used her powers to leave that crazy mom & crazy town.
The markings on Carrie's grave were graffiti, written by the town in response to her killing the people in the gym.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
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Blue Wave — 3 years ago(December 10, 2022 07:42 AM)
From their point of view they had every motive for their actions. They were high school bullies. Carrie was different. She was naive. She was a religious girl who dressed funny who behaved different. That is all the motive that that selfish among the high schoolers need to bully someone.