Carrie believing she won Prom Queen is not strange?
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rascal67 — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 06:32 AM)
Carrie wasn't even that interested in winning the vote. They only won due to it being rigged and even if it would have appeared odd, Carrie would have been allowed her moment and it added to her happiness. But yes, win or lose, the transformation in Carrie and attitude towards her would have changed regardless. The blood would also have been dropped on anyone who won. It was a prom revenge, only more fun if played out on Carrie. The girl was doomed anyway, as her mother was out for her blood as well and if she did get home safely, Margaret would have been ready with her holy knife.
The book goes into more detail about Carrie and her feelings, something that a 98min film can't always convey. One would also have to suspend disbelief, due to Carrie's well honed TK gift, which is part of the stories horror. Her quick transformation, was more due to her need to be accepted and things were going to change and that did come out in the film. Her period incident was the catalyst, and the understanding she came to about her body and her need to belong wasn't strange or far fetched in the context of the story.
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Dreamsville — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 02:12 PM)
The blood would also have been dropped on anyone who won.
It was a prom revenge, only more fun if played out on Carrie.
I don't think that's true. The votes were clearly rigged to ensure that Carrie would be named prom queen. And Chris didn't rig the bucket to fall on its own - she planned to be there to pull the cord. She saw Carrie as the reason why she was banned from the prom. If, say, Norma or Sue had won instead I doubt Chris would have gone through with it (although she was such a nasty spiteful b-tch that I guess she might have anyway just for kicks). It seemed to me that the "prank" was definitely conceived and set up for Carrie, and no one else, to be the victim. -
I_Love_Hutch — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 09:55 AM)
starting with her being fooled by being asked out by the class hunk
Tommy asked Carrie to the Prom with good intentions via his girlfriend. He was not trying to fool her, even though Carrie had at first thought he was trying to trick her. Then Miss Collins takes Carrie under her wing. It's all made clear in the office when Miss Collins confronts Tommy and Sue. -
knight-in-black-leather — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 09:17 PM)
Even if the votes were tapered with, Carrie (and her allies) would still be in disbelief that her whole peer group changed overnight due to looking good at the prom . Suspension of disbelief on this one.
Technically, it wouldn't have to be all of her peers, just enough for a majority win. I always assumed Carrie easily accepted winning prom queen because she knew Tommy was really popular and had a lot of friends. She basically won by default because she was his date.
In general, there was something somewhat too quick in her transformation, starting with her being fooled by being asked out by the class hunk
But she wasn't fooled, which is why she initially ran away when Tommy asked her and why she told Miss Collins they were just trying to trick her again. Plus Tommy's intentions were good.
Ironically, it was Miss Collins' talk to boost Carrie's self-esteem that most likely allowed Carrie to finally accept his invitation, which is why Carrie later kills her - she felt Collins was in on the prank because she helped convince her to go to the prom.
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InherentlyYours — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 09:25 PM)
'Technically, it wouldn't have to be all of her peers, just enough for a majority win. I always assumed Carrie easily accepted winning prom queen because she knew Tommy was really popular and had a lot of friends. She basically won by default because she was his date.'
you think that's it, due to Tommy? I could see that better if he was the Prom King. So, the girl who was very popular and would have won, if not for the fake votes, got lost in the mist of it. And the whole class is clapping (no sign of surprise) for Carrie, as if she was a frontrunner. I don't know, sounds sketchy. But thanks -
rascal67 — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 04:09 PM)
The Prom King and Queen, were voted in as couples IY. Since Tommy was still popular, Carrie went along for the ride. It was all rigged anyway and in the book, they only won by one vote.
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knight-in-black-leather — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 07:54 PM)
you think that's it, due to Tommy? I could see that better if he was the Prom King. So, the girl who was very popular and would have won, if not for the fake votes, got lost in the mist of it. And the whole class is clapping (no sign of surprise) for Carrie, as if she was a frontrunner. I don't know, sounds sketchy. But thanks
Actually, Tommy was prom king. I know in some movies, the students vote for king and queen as individuals, but in "Carrie" the voting was set up for couples. In other words, if the students wanted Tommy for prom king and say Norma (girl with the baseball hat) for queen, it couldn't happen because they were not at the prom together (as a couple) and there was no ballot option for them.
Here's the ballot scene (it's right at the beginning)
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Born_Tomorrow — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 09:39 PM)
Carry was a damn fool. She should have known good and well that those cruel bastards had something up their sleeves. These were the same people that tormented her for starting her period and I think it's safe to assume that they had been treating her like a sac of sh!t for a while before then but for some reason she got it in her head to believe that these same ass holes suddenly turned a new leaf because she put on a dress and some lipstick.
She looked like a total dumbass, going up there to get crowned for prom queen, like she really thought all of those people actually voted for her crazy ass and instead ended up getting blood dumped on her head and standing on that stage looking like a jackass. Even her mother tried to warn her ("They're all going to laugh at you") but she just didn't listen. Probably the only time her mother said something that made sense and she didn't listen.
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InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 09:49 PM)
Well, that was blunt. Yes, that was the point of my original topic, until somebody explained that the winners were both the boy/girl.
knight-in-black-leather already mentioned this, that it would make sense to Carrie (and Tommy), since they figured the majority would vote for Tommy (by default), regardless of what girl was his date.
However, it doesn't explain why everybody would be applauding, instead of some students being unhappy with the winning vote. I don't recall if all the students applauded It's not realistic to think all of the ones who disliked Carrie would realize what fools they had been, and suddenly be in such great spirit about it. -
rascal67 — 9 years ago(September 11, 2016 03:50 AM)
However, it doesn't explain why everybody would be applauding, instead of some students being unhappy with the winning vote. I don't recall if all the students applauded It's not realistic to think all of the ones who disliked Carrie would realize what fools they had been, and suddenly be in such great spirit about it.
I would say IY, that people would have just done what came naturally to them. Not everyone would have hated Carrie, they just wouldn't have had anything to do with her. The transformation seen in Carrie and the occasion of the event, would have meant that most spirits would have been high. It was only a select few of Carrie's classmates that knew of the prank
perhaps they didn't applaud, or if they did, it would have been with the anticipation of what was going to happen
and Tommy was also popular with most. The applause would have been for him also. Carrie just went with the result, as strange and bizarre as it may have appeared; but still justified due to Tommy being on her arm.
What was the alternative for her, refuse the honor and act indignant about it? That would have been strange, considering she was wanting to be accepted and fit in.
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Born_Tomorrow — 9 years ago(September 11, 2016 11:14 AM)
Yeah but usually during prom, they vote separately. For instance, Tommy could have won prom king but somebody else, besides Carrie, could be voted prom queen, unless Carrie is voted prom queen separately.
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deem_bastille — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 10:35 AM)
well..
teenagers Carrie's age are still kind of gullible and wishing to be accepted. Their skepticism does not evolve until college age and college courses where the are encouraged to think about the box and go against what the others are doing for the sake of 'norm'.
please don't tell me you're a social worker. and if you are, you should
quit. now.
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on my eiderdown once more.