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    Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 17, 2015 07:54 AM)

    Hammett (1982)
    She's a disaster.
    Hammett
    is a fictional story about the great writer
    Dashiell Hammett
    (played by
    Frederic Forrest
    ). The story finds the writer retired from the
    Pinkerton Detectice Agency
    and nursing bad lungs and a taste for the liquor. When old colleague
    Jimmy Ryan
    (
    Peter Boyle
    ) comes a calling,
    Hammett
    finds himself down in
    Frisco's Chinatown
    district in it up to his neck in muck and grime.
    The back story to the production of
    Hammett
    is long and disappointing, all of which makes for fascinating reading and available at the click of a mouse. The film we have to view now may not be the one originally envisaged by director
    Wim Wenders
    , but on repeat viewings it shows itself to be a very loving homage to the halcyon days of
    film noir
    , a film of great technical craft and guile. Though not without issues either
    Production value is high, the set design that brings late
    1920s Frisco
    to life is a joy, as is
    Joseph Biroc's
    luscious colour photography.
    John Barry
    provides a musical score that smoothly floats around the Gin Joints and Alleyways, while costuming is on the money. Cast are led superbly by the under valued
    Forrest
    , with
    Marilu Henner
    (
    Biroc
    lights her so well),
    Boyle
    and
    Lydia Lei
    striking the requisite
    film noir
    chords, while a host of cameos and short order roles will have the keen of eye putting names to the faces from similar films of yesteryear.
    The story is complex, which is purposely complimented by narration, canted angles, slatted shadows, billowing smoke, and of course a number of venues that all anti-heroic detectives must traverse to unravel the mystery bubbling away under the seamy surface. The problems are evident of course, it's a very uneven picture, the re-writes etc leaving a disappointing mark. It's also like watching a performance at the theatre, akin to watching a play, the predominantly stage bound shoot - and the almost forced delivery of lines - makes it synthetic.
    But ultimately there's a lot of
    noir
    love here, enough to ensure that repeat viewings for those of that persuasion should find themselves rewarded for their time. 7/10
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      Frank_Caprica — 10 years ago(August 19, 2015 01:04 AM)

      Oh, not heard of this one!

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        Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 05:34 AM)

        Hope you get to catch it at some point.
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          jgcole — 10 years ago(August 23, 2015 06:10 AM)

          I watched
          Hammett
          last year after it was mentioned (probably by you) on these boards. I did have a bit of a problem with the overly hardboiled dialogue and the delivery of the lines which was way oversold resulting in something that bordered on parody. The milieu was too carefully orchestrated to maximize its noirness and the whole thing became tedious. But it actually was a good story, as you noted, sufficiently complicated with interesting characters.
          Point Blank
          is the film that brought noir into the modern world. That great noir city, Los Angeles, is all reflective glass and steel and the gangsters are businessmen in grey suits who hang out with accountants. The film looks great, filmed in beautifully muted colors. The flashbacks and jumps confuse reality and Marvin plays a classic noir character - the lone wolf. You make a good comment on this film not being for everyone - it's not even for every noir fan. It really is a one of a kind movie.
          I'm looking forward to your comments on
          Memento
          .

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            Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 23, 2015 06:46 AM)

            No,
            Hammett
            didn't come from me, this was the first time I had seen it. As for the milieu, it would have been so much different if
            Coppola
            had left
            Wenders
            version to float, something like 80% of the film was being filmed outside at real locations, instead of the 99% stage bound film we actually have to view now.
            Yep, no doubt about it,
            Point Blank
            stands on its own, even the haters have a grudging respect for its uniqueness.
            My
            Memento
            review is up mate, just click on the link in the opening post.
            Nice to chat again
            jg
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              MsELLERYqueen2 — 10 years ago(August 19, 2015 12:12 PM)

              I can't think of much neo-noir which I've seen. There is
              Chinatown
              , which I enjoyed but which I can't recall now. There is
              L.A. Confidential
              , which was poor.
              Not sure about some Korean thrillers, such as
              Jakarta
              and
              Mother
              . Do they qualify as neo-noir?

              Jim Hutton (1934-79) and Ellery Queen =
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                Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 05:38 AM)

                I'll be reviewing
                L.A. Confidential
                this time around, I love it, 10/10.
                Jakarta (2000)

                Madeo (2009)
                You tell me, do they have noir traits such as fatalism, fatales, interesting photography and camera work?
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                  MsELLERYqueen2 — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 10:02 AM)

                  Jakarta

                  • starts out with the same bank being held up at the same time by several different groups of people. After about half of the movie is over, the story begins again and this time the viewers see what is REALLY going on. I never did finish Memento, but I heard that
                    Memento
                    follows a similar theme.
                    Mother
                  • excellent whodunit. Those who study film will likely be more interested in the mother-son relationship. I was watching it as a whodunit only.
                    Both have good camera work and photography.
                  Jim Hutton (1934-79) and Ellery Queen =
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                    Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 06:27 AM)

                    Marlowe (1969)
                    I'm a trained detective!
                    Marlowe
                    is directed by
                    Paul Bogart
                    and adapted to screenplay by
                    Stirling Silliphant
                    from the novel
                    The Little Sister
                    written by
                    Raymond Chandler
                    . It stars
                    James Garner
                    ,
                    Gayle Hunnicut
                    ,
                    Carroll O'Connor
                    and
                    Rita Moreno
                    . Music is by
                    Peter Matz
                    and cinematography by
                    William H. Daniels
                    .
                    Los Angeles
                    private detective
                    Philip Marlow
                    (
                    Garner
                    ) is working on what he thinks is a simple missing persons case, how wrong he is!
                    Q as in Quintessential - U as in Uninhibited - E as in Extrasensory - S as in Subliminal - T as in Toots!
                    Another of the interpretations for the great
                    Chandler
                    creation of
                    Philip Marlowe
                    , unsurprisingly met with mixed notices - just as all the others have done. You do wonder what
                    Chandler
                    would have made of the role portrayals that came out post his death? I like to think he very much would have enjoyed
                    Garner's
                    take, because this
                    Marlowe
                    is a quip happy wise guy, unflappable and cool, he portrays so much with just a glance, and the girls love him.
                    The story is juicy in its little complexities, spinning
                    Marlowe
                    into muddy waters the further he investigates things. His life is always under threat, be it by serial ice-pick users or
                    Asian
                    martial artists (
                    Bruce Lee
                    no less in a nutty couple of scenes) wishing to inflict death, or of arrest by an increasingly frustrated police force.
                    Bogart
                    and
                    Daniels
                    keep the whole thing stylish looking, with
                    film noir
                    camera tricks and colour photography infusing the period details. While the supporting cast, notably the ladies, give
                    Garner
                    some splendid support.
                    It's a different
                    Marlowe
                    for sure, but a thoroughly engaging and entertaining one. 7/10
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                      Jessica_Rabbit69 — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 09:45 AM)

                      Spike, I haven't really watched too much Neo-Noir yet. I'd like to check them out though. But somehow I seem to be unable to let go of the 40's and 50's.
                      When did you post part one of your list? Do you still have a link to them? Or are they all in different posts in which case posting them again would be asking too much. 🙂
                      Jessica Rabbit
                      "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."

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                        Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 11:04 PM)

                        I have it somewhere, I'll go a mooching for it!
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                        Spikeopath

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                          Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 21, 2015 08:24 AM)

                          All films have been coined as neo-noir or one of the off-shoots of such in official publications or put forward by noir lovers on the best regarded web sites.
                          Drive (2011)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10780504/reviews-745
                          Malice (1993)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10107497/reviews-92
                          Body Heat (1981)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10082089/reviews-152
                          Out of Time (2003)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10313443/reviews-159
                          Sharky's Machine (1981)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10083064/reviews-57
                          Hustle (1975)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10073133/reviews-26
                          Best Seller (1987)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10092641/reviews-29
                          Cop (1988)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10092783/reviews-37
                          Bad Influence (1990)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10099091/reviews-52
                          Blood Simple (1984)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10086979/reviews-245
                          Insomnia (2002)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10278504/reviews-653
                          One False Move (1992)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10102592/reviews-62
                          At Close Range (1986)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10090670/reviews-79
                          A History of Violence (2005)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10399146/reviews-1112
                          Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead (1995)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10114660/reviews-145
                          The Big Easy (1986)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10092654/reviews-60
                          Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10292963/reviews-277
                          Manhunter (1986)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10091474/reviews-449
                          Heat (1995)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10113277/reviews-885
                          Narc (2002)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10272207/reviews-221
                          Madigan (1968)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10063256/reviews-42
                          Miami Vice (2006)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10430357/reviews-997
                          The Salton Sea (2002)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10235737/reviews-192
                          City by the Sea (2002)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10269095/reviews-174
                          To Live and Die in L.A. (1985)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10090180/reviews-215
                          The Killers (1964)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10058262/reviews-66
                          Basic Instinct (1992)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10103772/reviews-307
                          Black Rain (1989)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10096933/reviews-113
                          Gattaca (1997)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10119177/reviews-622
                          New Jack City (1991)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10102526/reviews-79
                          True Romance (1993)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10108399/reviews-471
                          Red Rock West (1993)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10105226/reviews-75
                          Romeo Is Bleeding (1993)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10107983/reviews-92
                          Trance (2013)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/11924429/reviews-24
                          Eastern Promises (2007)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10765443/reviews-405
                          The Limey (1999)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10165854/reviews-245
                          Heist (2001)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10252503/reviews-275
                          D.O.A. (1988)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10094933/reviews-45
                          No Way Out (1987)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10093640/reviews-87
                          Kiss of Death (1995)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10113552/reviews-60
                          The Zodiac (2005)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10371739/reviews-52
                          Miami Blues (1990)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10100143/reviews-51
                          Night Moves (1975)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10073453/reviews-49
                          Dark City (1998)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10118929/reviews-653
                          The Bedroom Window (1987)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10092627/reviews-36
                          Liar (1997)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10119527/reviews-70
                          The Number 23 (2007)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10481369/reviews-404
                          House of Games (1987)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10093223/reviews-110
                          Night and the City (1992)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10105001/reviews-31
                          Mulholland Falls (1996)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10117107/reviews-97
                          Fear City (1984)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10087247/reviews-28
                          A Simple Plan (1998)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10120324/reviews-438
                          Klute (1971)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10067309/reviews-103
                          Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10373469/reviews-348
                          Hard Eight (1996)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10119256/reviews-143
                          The Driver (1978)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10077474/reviews-75
                          The Long Goodbye (1973)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10070334/reviews-148
                          State of Grace (1990)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10100685/reviews-119
                          Collateral (2004)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10369339/reviews-877
                          Hana-Bi (1997)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10119250/reviews-125
                          Internal Affairs (1990)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10099850/reviews-70
                          The Grifters (1990)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10099703/reviews-94
                          52 Pick-Up (1986)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10090567/reviews-45
                          Jennifer Eight (1992)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10104549/reviews-58
                          Deadfall (2012)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/11667310/reviews-79
                          Johnny Handsome (1989)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10097626/reviews-49
                          Hickey & Boggs (1972)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10068698/reviews-23
                          Man on Fire (2004)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10328107/reviews-648
                          Get Carter (1971)
                          http://www.imdb.com/board/10067128/reviews-187
                          So much fun and dark enjoyment, I will partake in a quest part 2
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                          Spikeopath

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                            Jessica_Rabbit69 — 10 years ago(August 21, 2015 09:45 AM)

                            Oh wow!!!! Thank you so much! Now I have to go through them all. 🙂
                            Jessica Rabbit
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                              Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 02:41 AM)

                              You're welcome mate. I still have a box load of the oldies still to watch as well, that's always on going as much as the neo years are. It's interesting to compare the original wave with the modern era approach to noir, the influence of those 40s and 50s should never be under estimated, the impact is still being felt today, even in big budget superhero movies!
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                                XhcnoirX — 10 years ago(August 21, 2015 10:09 AM)

                                Thanxxx for that list! Plenty of movies I've not yet seen and spotted some I didn't even know about, hah

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                                  Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 02:41 AM)

                                  Hope you find something that catches your eye.
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                                    Maddyclassicfilms — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 03:17 AM)

                                    Great reviews.
                                    Hammett
                                    and
                                    Deep Cover
                                    sound interesting. I think my favourite Neo Noirs will always be
                                    Chinatown
                                    and
                                    LA Confidential
                                    .
                                    Go to bed Frank or this is going to get ugly
                                    .

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                                      Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 08:52 AM)

                                      Looking forward to revisiting and reviewing both of those this time around. Love 'em both!
                                      Thanks for the kind words mate
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                                        Jessica_Rabbit69 — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 09:13 AM)

                                        Chinatown
                                        is good, but I adore
                                        LA Confidential
                                        . Must re-watch again soon.
                                        Jessica Rabbit
                                        "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."

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                                          Spikeopath — 10 years ago(August 22, 2015 08:31 AM)

                                          Point Blank (1967)
                                          You're a very bad man, Walker, a very destructive man!
                                          Point Blank
                                          is directed by
                                          John Boorman
                                          and collectively adapted to screenplay by
                                          Alexander Jacobs
                                          ,
                                          David Newhouse
                                          and
                                          Rafe Newhouse
                                          from the novel
                                          The Hunter
                                          written by
                                          Richard Stark
                                          . It stars
                                          Lee Marvin
                                          ,
                                          Angie Dickinson
                                          ,
                                          Keenan Wynn
                                          ,
                                          Carroll O'Connor
                                          ,
                                          Lloyd Bochner
                                          and
                                          Michael Strong
                                          . Music is by
                                          Johnny Mandel
                                          and the
                                          Panavision
                                          cinematography (in
                                          Metrocolor
                                          ) is by
                                          Philip H. Lathrop
                                          .
                                          Betrayed by wife and friend during a robbery,
                                          Walker
                                          (
                                          Marvin
                                          ) is left dying on a stone cold cell floor at closed down
                                          Alcatraz
                                          Pure
                                          neo-noir
                                          , a film that could be argued was ahead of its time, given that it wouldn't find a fan base until many years later. Yet it deserves to be bracketed as a benchmark for the second phase of
                                          noir
                                          , a shining light of the
                                          neo
                                          world, experimenting with techniques whilst beating a true
                                          film noir
                                          heart.
                                          The story is deliciously biting, pumped full of betrayals and double crosses, fatales and revenge, death and destruction. It even has a trick in the tale, ambiguity. It all plays out in a boldly coloured
                                          Los Angeles
                                          , the photography sparkles as
                                          Mandel
                                          lays an elegiacal and haunting musical score over the various stages of the drama. The talented
                                          Boorman
                                          has a field day with the elements of time, shunting various strands of the story around with sequences that at first glance seem out of place, but actually are perfect in context to what is narratively happening, the director gleefully toying with audience expectations. While suffice to say angles are tilted and close ups broadened to further style the pic.
                                          Then there is
                                          Walker
                                          , a single minded phantom type character, played with grace and menace by
                                          Marvin

                                          • who better to trawl the
                                            Los Angeles
                                            underworld with than
                                            Marv
                                            ? This guy only wants what he is owed from the robbery, nothing more, nothing less, but if the meagre reward is not forthcoming, people are going to pay with something more precious than cash. His mission is both heroic and tragic, with
                                            Boorman
                                            asking the viewers to improvise their thought process about what it all inevitably means. Funding the fuel around
                                            Marvin
                                            are good players providing slink, sleaze and suspicion.
                                            Deliberate pacing isn't for everyone, neither is stylised violence and stylish directorial trickery, but for those who dine at said tables,
                                            Point Blank
                                            , and
                                            Walker
                                            the man, is for you. 9/10
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