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    greenbudgie — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 02:12 AM)

    'Spiral Staircase' is one of my favourite creepy old house movies. I would like to hear how Dorothy McGuire got round playing a mute girl on the radio.
    I like the way that there were radio versions of 1940s movies. The only ones that I have heard to date is a couple recorded adaptations of 'The Uninvited' which is another favourite of the creepy house genre.

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      MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 06:51 PM)

      Unfortunately, I can't remember which show that radio play is a part of. I always listen to radio plays on archive.org. However, a search for
      The Spiral Staircase
      (radio play) on youtube might get you results.
      On archive.org, I heard several radio plays based on film thrillers:
      Laura
      (shortened script of the film, with most of the film actors starring in the radio play, too)
      Sorry Wrong Number

      • the film is based on a radio play starring Agnes Moorehead. Later, the film script was shortened and recorded for radio, starring Barbara Stanwyck and Burt Lancaster.
        The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
      • a very shortened version of the film.
        I think I also heard the radio play
        The Uninvited
        . I can't remember.
        There's also a half-hour radio play
        The Best Years of Our Lives
        (obviously not a thriller).
        Some of my faves are part of the
        Suspense
        series, written by John Dickson Carr.
        Peter Lorre stars in two of them.
        If you want to hear an inverted mystery with a brilliant ending, look up
        Want Ad
        (part of
        Suspense
        ). Of all the ways that a criminal gets trapped in an inverted mystery, this one's my personal fave. Very highly recommended!
        The radio play
        Sorry Wrong Number
        was written by Lucille Fletcher. Another Lucille Fletcher-Agnes Moorehead collaboration is the brilliant radio play
        The Diary of Sophoronia Winters
        . Terrific ending!
        And one that's set in the Canadian wilderness:
        A Terrible Night
        , part of
        The Weird Circle
        series.
      Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen
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        greenbudgie — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 01:52 AM)

        I would love to hear the radio plays that you mentioned especially Peter Lorre in the 'Suspense' plays. I've heard that he can be heard singing from some other old radio programs.
        Two radio plays of 'The Uninvited' were done, both with Ray Milland, in 1944 and 1949. Ruth Hussey is in the 1944 version of them.

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          MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 06:00 PM)

          From
          Suspense
          (written by John Dickson Carr and starring Peter Lorre):
          Till Death Do Us Part
          The Devil's Saint
          I absolutely adore those two radio plays!
          Another great one from
          Suspense
          (also written by Carr):
          Will You Make a Bet With Death?
          https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Suspense_Singles
          Those three are near the top of the list. There's also
          Want Ad
          , which is an inverted mystery and the ending is absolutely brilliant. The crook gets what's coming to himin the best way possible!
          I think I had mentioned the one from
          The Weird Circle
          , called
          A Terrible Night
          . Brilliant story set in the Canadian wilderness.
          https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Weird_Circle_Singles
          From
          Inner Sanctum
          , hear
          The Voice on the Wire
          . Great ending!
          https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Inner_Sanctum_Mysteries_Singles

          Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen
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            greenbudgie — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 01:24 AM)

            Thanks for the links to the radio plays available. There is an amazing wealth of actors from the Golden Age mentioned who have had at least one radio play performance.
            I'm going to have to find my headphones for a listen to them. Probably beginning with Terrible Night from The Weird Circle series.

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              MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(January 21, 2017 12:45 AM)

              Also posted are the
              Ellery Queen minute mysteries
              . I don't have time to search for them now. Maybe later. Remind me. I gotta go soon.

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                MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 12:50 AM)

                I watched a couple more of the 1930s Perry Mason films. I'd like to comment on all of them, which I have seen at least once.
                The Case of the:
                Howling Dog

                • absolutely brilliant movie. I didn't watch it tonight, but I've seen this one a number of times and I adore it. Fantastic mystery, and the adaptation is very faithful to the book (which I've read once a few years ago). This film is well paced, acted well, etc. It's not spoiled by all sorts of idiotic
                  Thin Man
                  -style humor.
                  Curious Bride
                • very poor, compared to
                  Howling Dog
                  . It's mostly spoiled by some idiotic humor which the filmmakers decided to throw into the story. I seem to recall trying to read this novel and it wasn't very interesting. I didn't bother with it tonight.
                  Lucky Legs
                • same as
                  Curious Bride
                  , except that I don't remember trying to read this novel. I skipped this one tonight as well.
                  Velvet Claws
                • An improvement over the last two films, although they could have left out the silly storyline about everyone getting a cold. It wasn't funny and it was certainly distracting. The story is decent enough, as is the book (which I've read). Mind you, I think it's much weaker than
                  Howling Dog
                  (which is likely Gardner's Perry Mason masterpiece). Interesting ending. I enjoyed watching this tonight.
                  Black Cat
                • Another one which I watched tonight. This time, Ricardo Cortez replaced Warren William as Perry Mason, and he did a good job in the role. This one's an interesting story. I would rank this as the second best in the series, but it's not nearly as interesting as
                  Howling Dog
                  (which is probably one of the best mystery stories ever written). Still, I like the complex ending of
                  Black Cat
                  . It reminds me a bit of
                  The Kennel Murder Case
                  .
                  Stuttering Bishop
                • I've seen this one once and found it very dull. I skipped it tonight. I don't even remember who the leading actor is in this one.
                  So I enjoyed both
                  Velvet Claws
                  and
                  Black Cat
                  tonight. I think it's the first time in two or three years that I've seen those movies. Very unlikely that I'll ever see
                  Lucky Legs
                  and
                  Curious Bride
                  again.
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                  MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 12:37 AM)

                  Three from the 1930s:
                  Murder on the Campus
                  (1933): a female college student is the prime suspect in several murders. A journalist, who is in love with her, decides to try to solve the case. Enjoyable movie.
                  Murder in the Museum
                  (1934): a murder takes place at an event which is more of a 14-A rated show rather than a museum, and the real killer has to be found. I admit that, a couple of times now, I've had trouble getting through this film.
                  Murder by Television
                  (1935): an interesting look at very, very early television. A man is murdered while speaking on television. Always nice to see Bela Lugosi on the big screen.
                  I've enjoyed a number of retro-1930s mysteries, but it's also nice to see mysteries which were released in the 1930s - not just for the plots, but also for the genuine clothing, hairdos, and scenery of the time. No anachronisms. I know that some folks don't care about this, but I'm kinda fussy about this issue.

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                    MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 12:05 AM)

                    Two more from the 30s, with newspaper reporters as main characters:
                    Murder With Pictures
                    (1936): I admit that this one didn't appeal to me as much as it did when I last saw it a few years ago.
                    The 13th Man
                    (1937): This one's a great whodunit about an announcer who is about to reveal who killed a certain man. Before he gets the chance to do so on the air, he is murdered. It's up to a newspaper reporter to figure out which of the suspects is the culprit.
                    For these 1930s mysteries, check their IMDb home pages to see if the movie is posted there. It is, in some cases.

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                      MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 12:36 AM)

                      It's late, but I'm watching the 1932 mystery
                      The King Murder
                      , about a blackmailer who gets murdered. I seem to recall enjoying this one a couple of years ago, so I'm watching it again now.

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                        MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 09:08 PM)

                        It Couldn't Have Happened, but it did
                        (1936):
                        I've seen this one a few times. It's a bit confusing, but fun. I like the leading actors.
                        Let's just say that several people and several adjoining offices are factors in a murder

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                          MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 10:34 PM)

                          Murder by the Clock
                          (1931):
                          creepy house and tomb/vault
                          an old matriarch with a lot of money
                          a
                          femme fatale
                          Can't go wrong with this combination.
                          EDIT: this film really isn't a whodunit, although it sure feels like one! I wrote more comments about this film on the film noir thread. I wanted to bring up the fact that this film has a
                          femme fatale
                          in it.

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                            MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 08:58 PM)

                            Since the boards are scheduled to be disabled in a couple of weeks or so, I'll just write a few final comments for those looking for classic mysteries.
                            First, get to know as many of the classic mystery authors as possible. Agatha Christie, Ellery Queen, Mignon Eberhart, Ngaio Marsh, Margery Allingham, Stuart Palmer, Erle Stanley Gardner, Earl Derr Biggers, Stanley Ellin, John Dickson Carr, etc.
                            Then, look up their filmography.
                            Do online searches for the films, using key words like "murder" and "thirteen".
                            For books by these authors, don't expect to find too many in public libraries, unless the books are still in print. Try a nearby university library. If necessary, use the interlibrary loan feature where the books from these university libraries can be sent to your local library.
                            Good luck!

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                              morrison-dylan-fan — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 10:23 AM)

                              Hi,I've created a new Noir page on Reddit,details are on the post at the top of this board.
                              Thanks,MDF/Chris.

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                                MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 02:22 PM)

                                Thanks. I saw that thread. Thanks again!

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                                  MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 07:52 PM)

                                  Tonight, it's:
                                  Death on the Diamond
                                  Hollywood Stadium Mystery
                                  (both from the thirties)

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                                    MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 11:30 PM)

                                    I'm hoping to watch all of the above in the next couple of days. I've seen them all before. Yup, these are from the 1930s:
                                    Mystery Liner
                                    Murder at Dawn
                                    Murder at Glen Athol
                                    The Thirteenth Guest
                                    The Old Dark House

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                                      greenbudgie — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 02:11 AM)

                                      I think that I will share 'The Old Dark House' with you Mrs E and watch it myself. "Have a potato."

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                                        MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 06:10 PM)

                                        Thanks for your contributions on my thread!

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                                          MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 02:14 AM)

                                          Regarding some of these films: you'll find some of them on archive.org, where you can download them legally. Check their IMDb home pages. The links to the full movies are sometimes there.

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