Aaarrrgh! That damn monkey suit!
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rocketXpert — 11 years ago(January 03, 2015 12:24 AM)
The costume feels like a backwards step to me. They could have done a guy in a costume in the original King Kong. Stop motion might look quaint by modern standards, but it was cutting edge special effects in the thirties. There was nothing particularly innovative about that gorilla suit.
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rocketXpert — 11 years ago(January 07, 2015 12:06 PM)
Okay, I will grant that they couldn't have achieved those facial expressions on the suit in 33, but my point remains that the suit doesn't look great by 76 standards whereas the stop motion does look good for 1933. Unfortunately, until CGI came along, I suppose the only two ways of doing it were stop motion or a guy in a costume.
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Buddy-Love63 — 11 years ago(January 12, 2015 11:25 AM)
It's better than any other ape suit of the 1970s. They were all pretty unimpressive back then.
Oh yes the stop motion was great in 1933. Unfortunately by 1976 it wouldn't have cut the mustard any better than a guy in a suit and that was the problem. At least there ARE some moments in Kong 1976 where it looks great.
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motter25420-153-699254 — 10 years ago(June 05, 2015 12:51 PM)
Well, I was born in '75 so most of the treasured movies of my childhood were people in suits, miniatures, paintings, etc so I have no issue with it and I think it looks great. I also like stop motion, don't get me wrong, but as others have said it looks better in black and white or when used very briefly if it's color.
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seilerbird — 10 years ago(June 19, 2015 08:48 AM)
I think that the actors did a fabulous job. I think the special effects were wonderful, considering it was made 40 years ago. What really sucked for me was the horrible screenplay. "He's bigger than the both of us". I mean really. And why was Jeff wanting to keep him alive? What was he planning on doing with him if he was alive? Take him home to his apartment? And why was Jessica so in love with Kong? Doesn't she realize she is not as large as his weiner?
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magickbox — 10 years ago(June 19, 2015 04:33 PM)
I'll stick with my original assessment, especially about that disappointing full scale Kong model that turned in a money pit, the big rubber snake instead of T-Rex and Rick Baker lumbering among the model buildings. Compare that to what RKO accomplished in the 1930's.
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Buddy-Love63 — 10 years ago(June 26, 2015 08:16 AM)
What really sucked for me was the horrible screenplay. "He's bigger than the both of us".
The script was ok, even good in places. That line you cited was supposed to be a groan. Even Jack himself knows its a groan moment.
And why was Jeff wanting to keep him alive? What was he planning on doing with him if he was alive? Take him home to his apartment?
Kong is a unique new species. He already contributed to a petition to send Kong home. It's there in the movie.
And why was Jessica so in love with Kong? Doesn't she realize she is not as large as his weiner?
She wasn't in love with Kong. She was scared of him and tried to get away from him until right at the end when the helicopters came. Only then does she go to him to stop them shooting him. You are thinking of Naomi Watts in Kong 2005. Watts gazes lovingly into Kong's eyes and giggles like a schoolgirl on her prom date. -
eddie_brown147 — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 07:47 AM)
Thank you I haven't had a good belly laugh in a long time..school girl on her prom dateha.haJack Black with an expression on his face like someone just blew wind.the 2005 version is my least favorite King Kong ever even with the millions of dollars of special effects. Kong sliding across the ice like a kid who got out of school early because of snow. Cheesy is the word..and there is a lot of it
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(August 13, 2015 07:23 PM)
The movie was sold mostly on the idea of the mechanical ape. When they knew it was limited in what it could do they implemented more with the costume. You don't get much better than Rick Baker when it comes to ape costumes/makeup.
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jmillerdp — 10 years ago(October 01, 2015 03:02 AM)
What they most needed to do was shoot in slight slow motion, overcrank the camera just enough to give the Baker-in-a-suit scenes more presence. They seem to have shot them at normal 24fps, which is too realistic, pointing out his being in a suit.
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