William Holden
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rascal67 — 10 years ago(April 17, 2015 11:48 PM)
Holden was the leading man here and Finch was support and would have also got the sympathy vote over Holden. However, I don't feel that Holden would have been runner up. That would have likely been Robert De Niro for TAXI DRIVER. He won LA,NY and NSFC.
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franzkabuki — 13 years ago(September 19, 2012 09:51 AM)
Holden has always been a rather wooden and awkward actor with very limited range, but hes good enough here. Brings a necessary element of humanity into this otherwise savage film.
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vicky_lc2001 — 11 years ago(July 12, 2014 10:27 AM)
Wooden and awkward? In every film I've seen him in, he comes across as very charming, very natural, and he draws you in. I'm a new fan actually, I've recently rewatched Sunset Blvd since I was a kid and just discovered him. I've since been doing a marathon on Holden films and I'm shocked that he isn't more popular or recognized like Brando or Newman or Bogart. I simply don't get why he's not more of a household name like those other 3 are.
And Holden has far more watchable, enjoyable, memorable, and nicer films than some of these guys.
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rascal67 — 10 years ago(April 18, 2015 02:15 AM)
I don't know about wooden; Holden..
I have seen about 12 of Holden's films and the Lucy episode he appeared in, (love it just for him) and have never found him wooden. There are many actors from the bygone era that I haven't discovered and Holden was always around in movies when I was a kid in the 70's. Some of his more popular older films, hadn't escaped me either.
He has a strong masculine presence and sad expressive features and I love watching his face and eyes. Lumet loved them to and it was a bit detrimental in some scenes in NETWORK. Especially Beatrice Straight's scene, when she is confronting him. The camera is more concerned with his reaction to what she was saying, rather than 'as' focused on her character and how she was saying it. -
InherentlyYours — 10 years ago(April 18, 2015 02:24 AM)
'The camera is more concerned with his reaction to what she was saying, rather than 'as' focused on her character and how she was saying it.'
That annoyed me. I like to see the actor delivering the lines, especially when she wins an Oscar for them. I know it's done for effect, but it can be overkill. You even see that a lot in Valley of the Dolls, a much lesser film (showing the actor's back) and it ruins the passion of the actor's lines. -
rascal67 — 10 years ago(April 18, 2015 02:39 AM)
There were even some shots, with the camera following her and static on her back or side, while she is talking. It could have tracked her, from the front. Holden's quiet expression and reaction, wasn't as compelling at this stage of the film and we needed to see more of Straight. Lumet lacked some pizazz, in his presentation and style of directing at times. He was all wrong for THE WIZ-78', when the camera just sat there, like a piece of dead wood and gave the film no life or energy.
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InherentlyYours — 10 years ago(April 18, 2015 02:48 AM)
Yes, I saw the tracking deficit too.
They could have used more back-shots and other actor's reactions for Faye in Mommie Dearest!
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franzkabuki — 10 years ago(May 29, 2015 10:09 PM)
If anything, Lumet's underrated, in big part probably because he's usually not considered an auteur as he tended towards sort of an unobtrusive, "invisible" style, not making his presence obvious. However, how many directors are there who have, by my reckoning, up to 10 masterpieces or near-masterpieces on their resume? Well, Lumet has 12 Angry Men, The Pawnbroker, The Anderson Tapes, The Offence, Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Network, Prince Of The City, The Verdict, Before The Devil Knows You're Dead bit hard to chalk this filmography up to coincidence. Also, even his lesser pictures tend to be worthwhile and interesting at least in some regards - just like with Robert Altman, there was always an alert intelligence and mature sensibility at work in his films (as someone noted, between 2006 and 2011, when Altman and Lumet died, Hollywood's collective IQ must have dropped by a half).
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forever_swirl — 11 years ago(June 19, 2014 07:34 AM)
I agree that he does a really good job here. I just hated the whole faye dunaway romance. I thought they had no chemistry anyway.
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Harold_Robbins — 11 years ago(June 26, 2014 10:21 AM)
"This is one of William Holden's finest performances."
Just watched this for the first time since its theatrical release, and couldn't agree more. Finch may have had the more flamboyant, showy role, but Holden's quiet under-acting was rivetting. If you ask me, everyone who shares a scene with him is better in that scene because he's in it.
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generalusgrant — 11 years ago(September 20, 2014 07:24 PM)
"Holden has always been a rather wooden and awkward actor with very limited range."
!?? Totally disagree. Perhaps he had a limited ranged, but so did many great actors, like Gable, Cooper, Cagney, Bogie, etc.
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merryapril — 11 years ago(September 20, 2014 10:17 PM)
He's absolutely terrific in
Network- a much needed, soulful foil for just about every other character in the film (except for his wife Louise, portrayed by the beautiful and classy Beatrice Straight in her very brief but Oscar-winning performance). Max Schumacher was a great role that suited him to a t, and he played it to perfection.
William Holden was my favorite leading man when I was a little girl. Even today, I can't think of anyone I like better. In addition to the ones you mentioned generalusgrant,
Bridge On The River Kwai, Stalag 17, Picnic, Love Is A Many Splendored Thing and Born Yesterday
are all movies he starred in that I watch again and again.
His dance scene with Kim Novak in
Picnic
is pure magic.
- a much needed, soulful foil for just about every other character in the film (except for his wife Louise, portrayed by the beautiful and classy Beatrice Straight in her very brief but Oscar-winning performance). Max Schumacher was a great role that suited him to a t, and he played it to perfection.
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merryapril — 11 years ago(September 21, 2014 04:53 PM)
Correct ecjones1951, I watched it last night!
I gather, after reading other threads on this board, that some people find
Network
too wordy and starkly moralistic. I can't disagree entirely, especially when it comes to William Holden's character Max as he's interacting with Faye Dunaway's Diana during their break up. Were it not for Dunaway's physical beauty and relative youth, it would be hard to believe a man like him would even be attracted to someone as manipulatively ambitious, shrill and amoral as she was. He knew she was all of those things, but I simply view him as an old fool who hoped he'd convince her to change. And such a vain hope required quite a bit of talking!
Still, I love the film and William Holden's portrayal of an over-the-hill newsman having a late-life crisis.