Deniro Too Unlikable??
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Samurai_babe — 20 years ago(January 31, 2006 04:05 AM)
Well, for me, i liked the cheeky arrogant character that De Nuiro played, reminds me of my boyfriend.
de Niro also look downright gorgeous in the this movie!!!
its me!
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Samurai_babe — 20 years ago(February 01, 2006 09:07 AM)
hmmm i haven't come across that info but i doubt very much its true.
its me!
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mary_reilly — 20 years ago(February 01, 2006 04:00 PM)
You could be right, I read this in a book which was going through every movie he had done at the time and in each movie it had robert de niro talking about the movie his charcter and anything else remotely to do with it. He was saying he liked plays and that he would like to do another play
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mary_reilly — 20 years ago(February 04, 2006 07:33 AM)
"your book says anything about Diahnne and Bob in that movie?"
It's not my book, I borrowed it from the library a long time ago so I don't remember the details which also includes your question. Funny thing is it was only 2 days ago I found the title of the book written somewhere, I remember the name now it's called..
The Cinema of Robert DeNiro -
Samurai_babe — 20 years ago(March 06, 2006 10:18 AM)
For me, it's De Niro and I simply can't help but like him. Sad truth I'd like him if he had a gun to my head. I can't help it.
haha! i'd too still love him even if were holding a gun to my head, just CAN NOT help loving him.
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dth1212 — 19 years ago(April 09, 2006 05:18 PM)
and because the movie hasnt a "happy ending".
I think part of the failure of NY, NY upon its initial release, among other things at the time, was due to all but the end of the "Happy Endings" number being cut. After being restored and the film's re-release in the early '80s, that number (an artificial, Hollywood-style movie-within-a-movie) gave the film enough of a "happy ending" to make up for the fact that Minnelli & DiNiro's characters could never have had such together. It also benefited from the "life affirming" quality of Minnelli's musical performance style. (If you've ever seen her live, especially when she was in top form, you know what I mean.) Even though NY, NY is a favorite of mine, I've always felt that DeNiro dominated the first two thirdsbut I especially love the last act, after he leaves and Francine's career takes off. That's when Minnelli owns the picture, IMHO. -
dth1212 — 19 years ago(April 22, 2006 04:17 PM)
True, that's why I typed "happy ending" in quotes. My point is that, for me at least, NY, NY became less of a downer when that number was restored in its entirety a few years after the film's initial premiere. (Actually, I didn't want to see the two of them back together at the end and was happy when they aborted their little reunion. I felt it actually showed growth in Minnelli's character, considering how women were traditionally represented during the period of the film.) Unfortunately, too many problems (the relationship, in general, the length and pace of the movie, etc.) still keep the movie from being a fully satisfying experience for most people.
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dth1212 — 19 years ago(April 09, 2006 05:41 PM)
and i dont know why she ended up marrying him.Since the beginning she could see that guy was a moron.
I think he wore her down with his persistance (he was one persistant SOB) and charm (yeah, he had some). Also, please remember that this movie takes place in the '40s, right after WWII. Women weren't allowed to be as independent in those days, unless life circumstances forced them to be otherwiseand what brief independence they had while the men were away at war soon ended upon their return. Though Francine appeared independent in the beginning, I think she started to lower her guard (at least with her heart) when she first heard him play and tried to help him at his audition. Plus, she was kind of trapped after he found her on the road and got a job with her band. From there, she probably got caught up in the whole fantasy of family and marriage (song: "The Man I Love"), and since they were both musiciansso much the better. Well, we know how that turned out. She found her real independence in the third act of the movie, IMHO. -
neil57 — 20 years ago(March 10, 2006 12:19 PM)
When the movie was first released, there was some speculation in the media (Rex Reed for example) that Scorsese had based the characters on Doris Day and her first musician husband who was apparently very abusive to her. If that is the case, then De Niro was playing the character as written.
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filmmekker — 13 years ago(May 06, 2012 03:55 AM)
True. I find DeNiro's character interesting but I'm sure that's why the film didn't do well. As James Cagney once said, "films are a boy girl business" I assume he was talking about hit films. If you were rooting for Minnelli and DeNiro to get together and they did, I'm sure this would have been a bigger hit.
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