This Movie Is Way Over The top
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — New York, New York
whedd3 — 17 years ago(January 31, 2009 01:27 AM)
I like this film, but it's entirely too much. Jimmy Doyle pesters almost every single woman in the nightclub for a sex date. Jimmy does everything to extremes. He's obnoxious in his insistence on dating Liza. He goes to ridiculous means at a hotel to avoid paying the bill. He gets under the wheel of a taxi and instructs the driver to run him over when the possibility arises that Liza may refuse to marry him. This is the movie's fault; Jimmy is too much. It makes the relationship between Liza's character and Jimmy unrealistic. Even Liza's costumes for gaudy and overdone. Her hairstyles are extreme and phony too.
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Milevskiy — 17 years ago(February 07, 2009 07:38 PM)
Well, what can you say? Their characters in real life were as different as they are in the movie. Actor vs. singer. So De Niro had to do some "singing" he didn't really care for and Minelli had to "act".
There was no finished script when they started shooting, the set was covered in white dust and the director was all over the place. There was lots of improvising and it took Scorsese forever to make some sense of it in post-production. Like he said himself: "I just couldn't fix the structure." -
vanityfair_713 — 16 years ago(April 04, 2009 09:14 PM)
Liza's a respected actress in her own rightwhy the need for quotation marks? Have you ever seen Cabaret, Say That You Love Me, Junie Moon, or The Sterile Cuckoo?
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franzkabuki — 16 years ago(November 07, 2009 07:39 AM)
Being over the top is actually one of its main charms. I mean, its obviously flawed, but theres still sort of an inspired energy to it that makes up for its rambling, occasionally incoherent nature.
I think one critic put it the best, saying that:
"If it fails, it does so in a very impressive way - and to be honest, Id rather see a mess like New York, New York than a technically brilliant and coherent, but fundamentally tame and unexciting movie like The Aviator".
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joliet_jane — 16 years ago(November 08, 2009 02:28 PM)
Everything's supposed to be phony and gaudy-looking. That was all on purpose. However, that doesn't make it good. The Mise en scne is revolting. Jimmy is just disgusting. Yuck.
Sometimes you look at a movie and say "they must've been on drugs to make that." In this case, it's true.