Jimmy + the Harlem Club Singer
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reader_527 — 17 years ago(May 19, 2008 12:54 AM)
You know you ought to attend a special class that teaches people to watch movies. Usually the requirement was eyes and ears and your brain. Now you have to be taught to use all three at once.
THERE IS NOTHING to suggest any affair between the two characters. It's all in your head. It's as ridiculous as people saying that Jake's brother Joey was having an affair with Vicky in Raging Bull.
I've watched this movie several times and your insulting response does not change my opinion I picked up on something between those two that the director wanted there. Very wise of him to use the De Niros' pre-existing chemistry.
As for attending a special class perhaps you need to take one that teaches the nuances of appropriate posting on a general membership board. You sound a bit like Jimmy here, and probably think that's a compliment. -
artihcus022 — 17 years ago(May 19, 2008 02:03 AM)
You sound a bit like Jimmy here, and probably think that's a compliment.
Damn straight!!!
I've watched this movie several times and your insulting response does not change my opinion I picked up on something between those two that the director wanted there. Very wise of him to use the De Niros' pre-existing chemistry.
Since Martin Scorsese doesn't make films addressed to paranoiacs, I do doubt that very much. And he was probably more interested in Diahnne Abbott's singing and her presence than her relationship with DeNiro. Besides he cast her again in
The King of Comedy
as her husband's romantic lead and the film plays against that chemistry, using it as the basis for possible attraction between the two rather than playing up their off-screen romance.
"a va by me, madamea va by me!"The Red Shoes
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Devans00 — 17 years ago(June 02, 2008 09:44 PM)
artihcus022, you come across as immature since you can't express your opinion without insulting people, but I'll respond anyway.
Some people are extra sensitive and observant. We can pick up non-verbal cues like smiles and body language. We don't always need a big neon sign to explain. By having my eyes open, I noticed there was more heat between Jimmy and the singer than all that smooching with Liza's character.
What that has to do with paranoia is beyond me.
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Ada_Inma — 17 years ago(May 31, 2008 07:17 AM)
I want to clear up one thing.De Niro didn't meet Diahnne Abbott in the movie "Taxi Driver", he met her in 1973 in NY city,when she was working as waitress in a restaurant.Since De Niro has a crush on black women and Diahnne was highly exotic and pretty,he soon dated her and later,after Taxi Driver,got married.Before,they had been living together in several hotels and flats,with Drena,Diahnne's daughter.I tell you this Just in case you are interested in the story of De Niro and his then wife.
I tought Jimmy could have had a affair with the singer,since he worked every nights there playing the saxo with the other black guys.So,he could have seen that girl some nights and have had something with her, so that's why she says "hello" to him with that sensual and erotic voice,and with " family night?" is something like " today you come with your wife,when i always see you alone".
So,yes,Jimmy was a womanizer and he didn't show much love for Francine,so he could have been sleeping with others.
In fact,in the dvd special edition,there are deleted scenes and in one of them,Jimmy has a conversation with Bernice and she talks about the song they were listening when they made the love the last time.
So,yes,Jimmy had affairs.With Bernice and who knows how many else..even the Harlem Club Singer.
Jimmy Doyle and his orchestra -
sfla — 15 years ago(November 13, 2010 09:28 PM)
Devans00 wrote:
Did anyone else pick up a vibe there may be something going on between Jimmy and the Club singer when they watched the movie?
I think most people did. Probably because the camera closed in on the two passing each other as they gazed at each other flirtingly, and she teasingly said 'family night' and he said 'come here' in a sexually suggestive manner.
But hey - very observant. Maybe you could become a detective. -
brookwriter — 15 years ago(January 20, 2011 08:28 AM)
The DeNiro/Diahanne Abbott sequence at the Harlem Club is one of my favorites from this movie (and I have many).
It is absolutly implied that Jimmmy and the Harlem Club Singer had a fling (and may still be flinging). You're not imagining things. As others have pointed out in this thread, Jimmy Doyle is a womanizer; we clearly see him with Bernice (Mary Kay Place) in the fleabag cabin after they've had a roll in the hay, just before Jimmy turns the band over to Paul (Barry Primus).
Jimmy's "phone call" in the stairwell after Abbott's singer character comes down the stairs is a sham. He isn't making a call; he's merely so overcome with mixed emotions about Francine's record deal and upcoming tour that he needed an excuse to get away from his wife and her new backers. Notice how he keeps an eye on Francine the entire time he pretends to be talking on the phone. It's a brilliant, risky scene; not everyone picks up on it on a first viewing.
This picture gets better every time I see it. I've seen it at least once a year since it was released. I don't think Minnelli and DeNiro have EVER received their due from these performances.
ALWAYS try to see the restored 163-minute version from 1981, NOT the 153- or (heaven forbid) 137-minute versions released in 1977. (I'm not even sure the cut versions ever made it to DVDhopefully not).
