Gunshots and (Un)Answered Questions: Friedkin, Blu-ray and Endings
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Doom — 11 years ago(May 08, 2014 07:35 AM)
Yeah, I'd agree with you.
Any chance we're only able to hear this sound now because of the quality of Blu-ray transfer?
I haven't watched my copy yet, so just throwing the question out there.
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indisposedinmymind — 11 years ago(May 09, 2014 05:43 AM)
It doesn't sound like a gunshot to me, but as for it always being there, I really can't say, as the sound on the old DVD was so poor.
Did anyone else notice that they cut the sound altogether for a split second, when the Amidou character fell between the slats on the bridge and into the water? It didn't happen on the DVD, but I thought it was really effective to be honest.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE REST OF US, AMAZING LARRY?!?! -
Edward_de_Vere — 11 years ago(May 09, 2014 09:33 AM)
If a closing scene with a gunshot being heard was filmed, I'm glad that it never made the final cut. Having us speculate about what happened next is more interesting than beating audiences over the head with it.
It's obviously strongly implied that Jackie was a goner, but I still like being left with the possibility that he survives, or at least imagining the scenarios under which he's killed (i.e. assassinated on the spot in the seedy bar vs. quietly being escorted out of it at gunpoint and shot in the jungle). -
Doom — 11 years ago(May 16, 2014 06:04 PM)
Hey there. I can finally chime in on this.
Just finished the Blu-ray (better transfer, no doubt - good movie) THEN watched that end scene again off the DVD version.
Um, whatever that sound was, it's
not
there on the DVD copy. Not even close.
So yeah take that how you will.
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lorenzb-2 — 11 years ago(May 31, 2014 07:51 AM)
It's always been obvious Jackie dies in the end. That's what "Sorcerer" means. The cruel wizard of fate. First he survives the car crash (one out of four) then he survives the nitro mission (again, one out of four) only to get murdered by two goons. Pure irony.
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fatluc-1 — 11 years ago(July 10, 2014 11:33 PM)
After reading this thread Here are my thoughts.
Really ?? The sound is whatever you want it to be ! A cheap gunshot it is definitely not. A truck backfiring perhaps Does it signify something special ? Does it actually change the way you feel at the end of the film ? Please people
The film is incredible !! And if anything the remastered version is more incredible !!
Obviously Mr. Friedkin wanted to sprinkle a little something for the audience seconds before we cut to black. That is his way of telling us that we actually will never truly know what happened. And good for him. The film speaks for itself !
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fatluc-1 — 11 years ago(July 10, 2014 11:40 PM)
After reading this thread Here are my thoughts.
Really ?? The sound is whatever you want it to be ! A cheap gunshot it is definitely not. A truck backfiring perhaps Does it signify something special ? Does it actually change the way you feel at the end of the film ? Please people
The film is incredible !! And if anything the remastered version is more incredible !!
Obviously Mr. Friedkin wanted to sprinkle a little something for the audience seconds before we cut to black. That is his way of telling us that we actually will never truly know what happened. And good for him. The film speaks for itself !
Good nite now -
Nakrophile — 11 years ago(July 19, 2014 12:22 PM)
I've only seen the new blu-ray edition (for whatever reason, I never got around to getting hold of the DVD).
Firstly, it is an excellent film. Adding the extra sound effect may not have been the wisest decision if it was indeed not present in he original cut (or the DVD at any rate), but to be honest I barely noticed the sound. Yes, it could have been a gunshot, or a truck backfiring, or anything else you'd like to imagine (yes, I agree with Friedkin's audience statement). Clearly, though, Schneider was a dead man walking and had been for a while. If his dancing with the woman tells us anything, it's that he wanted one last real contact with a woman before his inevitable death (remember back to the billboard of the woman and with coke bottle). though he probably didn't think it would come so son, but then again
I have no problem with it and I don't think I would have had I seen the film prior to this new version.
What does bother me a little though, is the complete lack of any extras. Even the booklet, while nice, is nothing new, as I have read his book. Maybe they'll be a commentary on the restored DVD when that is released, which would actually be a nice counter to all of the blu-rays out there with better extras than their recent DVDs. Nice pictures, though.
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armagecko — 11 years ago(August 06, 2014 11:43 PM)
I agree. Who buys a bluray without a commentary track? Even more, who buys a $20 bluray without commentary when you can watch the same film for $3 on Vudu? The director's favorite film but he can't be bothered to comment on it? What a mistake.
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Balthazar Bee — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 08:11 AM)
Who buys a bluray without a commentary track?
Me. I rarely find myself bothering with commentary tracks these days; some of them are quite good, but many of them are monotonous, glad-handing exercises in stating the obvious (or are just silent much of the time).
In the case of Friedkin, who should have plenty of scalding anecdotes about production, he seems to always descend into narrating what's occurring on screen. He even does this quite a bit in his track for Vertigo, oddly enough.
A Sorcerer commentary of that kind, I can do without.
"Here we have the second truck moving across the unstable bridge. Scanlon is driving while the character of the hit man is guiding him. Note the trees being swept along by the river," etc. -
johnywh — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 01:23 AM)
Discussion for the shooting in the movie end reminds me the ending of Antonioni's "the passenger". In any case having seen the 1st movie you could guess that the main hero will somehow die after surviving the dangerous mission, just when he is relaxed.