A masterpiece - should be top 250
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Sorcerer
ItalianGreyhound — 11 years ago(June 25, 2014 09:44 PM)
Wow. This film just totally blew me away. I think 7.7 is way too low of a rating - should be closer to 8.7. Everything about this movie just worked for me - the beautiful cinematography, the creepy atmosphere, and subtle acting. The characters told so much without using so many words. It reminded me of "Apocalypse Now" - another all-time favourite of mine. I can guess that being released around the same time as Star Wars and being a slower burn of a film probably didn't endear it to the audiences of the day. It's not really a mainstream film. But it totally thrilled me. What a great find. I also can highly recommend the BluRay - it's the closest thing to watching the film in a cinema. Any cinema lover is in for a treat if they haven't seen this movie yet. I've seen some people on this forum call this film "boring" - they obviously didn't see the same film that I saw.
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Strangerhand — 10 years ago(June 23, 2015 07:03 PM)
If IMDB were a legitimate site for rating films,
Haha I heard that! And I would not argue with that point! hehehehehe
Friedkin wasn't/isn't considered among the greatest filmmakers of all-time for nothing! And I gave
Sorcerer
[1977] 10 of 10 stars, easy! Wow, what a movie!
It's like I can't believe I somehow waited all these years to finally see it! And while it's not really a mainstream film (as already mentioned by other posters), it IS a must-see for lovers of cinema hehehehe -
feodoric — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 04:42 PM)
I'm afraid that the OP has never watched the real masterpiece on which Friedkin's film based his remake,
Le Salaire de la Peur
, with the extraordinary performance of Yves Montand in his prime, because he would at least have mentioned that
Sorcerer
is a remake of a film already and securely in the IMdB top 250!
Part of the merit one attributes to any film is its originality and the ideas used to tell the story, and for that part already, Clouzot's film is clearly the winner, evidently. To provide a just evaluation of
Sorcerer
before entering it in the competition for the Top 250, Friedkin's movie should at least have contributed a very clever alternative scenario, something blatantly amiss with his remake. An extremely contrived and far too elaborate prologue to explain why the four men turned out to end up together in the middle of nowhere did not succeed to convince me (and many reviewers as well) that I should suspend my disbelief. There's a huge gap there and the viewer has a hard time relating to the rest of the story because of that gap.
Le Salaire de la Peur
did a much, much better job at that by far and large: so why didn't Friedkin use a comparable starting point? It would have been easy and much more effective to introduce variations on the same theme instead of trying to reinvent the wheel as Friedkin tried with his jungle story. I suppose it was not enough for the Exorcist's director's ego to use a good, proven framework . he had to remake everything, even if that meant giving a new title aimed at confusing everybody !
Really,
Sorcerer
is a good flick, as confirmed by most people (at the time of writing, 7.7 is not a bad IMdB mean rating at all by any means, and if anything, it is just a little too high). However, it is not even in the same category as
Le Salaire de la Peur
at all. I would strongly suggest the OP to watch the latter movie - which is deservedly among IMdB Top 250 at #170. He would perhaps understand why a good many critics do not come up with the word masterpiece when referring to
Sorcerer
, unlike its predecessor.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I believe that the high current rating of
Sorcerer is
is artificially inflated by the fact that a likely majority of people voting at IMdB were not yet familiar with a B&W "foreign" 1953 movie which is probably only watchable with subtitles (unless one knows French - I do) when they saw Friedkin's movie, and were enthused by the subject matter itself, which always counts significantly in one's evaluation of any film.
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