This movie was boring and plain stupid.
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synapse256 — 19 years ago(January 31, 2007 01:56 PM)
If i can watch movies like Syriana, 2001 Space Odyssey, or Barry Lyndon and come out with very positive sentiments on the films, i don't think my problem is attention span.
I enjoy movies like Indiana Jones, Superman, and even some Schwarzenegger flicks but with those there is a key difference; you have to set the mood for a film or any good story early on and stick to it.
This film started out with gritty realism, and human drama and then transforms into an Indiana Jones style film half way through. That doesn't work for me.
If the plot is so contrived and full of holes that anyone can spot them then you need something else to drive the movie. Some examples of this would be likable characters, drama, romance, comedy, or action. This movie had none of these things.
My point in what has admittedly turned into a rant was only to make 1 thread in a board full of "best movie ever" type threads that acknowledges that this movie was deeply flawed and isn't going to be enjoyed by a large number of people.
Anyways, I didn't think this movie was worth the time, and this argument certainly wasn't either. People can watch it for themselves and decide, I just hope they aren't mislead as i was by the very high rating on a movie classified as "thriller" that in fact had very few thrills. I'm done here. -
MannyBam — 19 years ago(January 31, 2007 02:30 PM)
While i didn't think this movie was all that bad, it certainly was not all that good either. I agree with you the rating here is outrageous. Having watched it i would have expected something in the 4-5 range but certainly not 7.
I agree with you on the plot, it's far fetched and corny and at times very tedious. I also agree this movie had no likable character or anything else going for it.
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CrunchCameron — 19 years ago(February 08, 2007 12:03 AM)
Oh stop being modest guys, this movie was frickin excellent. Tangerine Dream did a great score. Dick Bush and John Stephens did some really great camerawork, and although it doesn't call for much, Roy Scheider did a great job filling the role of a guy who has had the life sucked out of him due to extreme circumstances. By the way I love the scene where Scanlon hears that guy laughing maniacally and then looks down at him and he's dead, but the laughter keeps going on.
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ClydeBickle — 19 years ago(February 13, 2007 05:37 PM)
Great beep suspense thriller from Friedkin and co., and I fail to see how the idea of trucks transporting nitro is illogical. Why not have a helicopter airlift it? Oh right, turbulence. They covered that. Well, how is a truck safer than a helicopter hitting some turbulence now and then? They covered that too, licensed helicopter pilots would not risk their lives like that for any kind of money, but a group of desperate lowlifes might. The trucks were also filled with dirt, and if you knew anything about physics you would understand that it absorbs the majority of the shock. Now stop trolling and go back to your michael bay films.
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obliv — 19 years ago(March 15, 2007 01:41 PM)
the reason they didnt carry the stuff was indeed because having two guys carry it on a stretcher would take a really long time, and the point was to get it to the refinery to try and blow out the fire w/the explosion set off by the dynamite. if they had to carry it, and be carefl and slow over akll that terrain, not only is there a greater chance for humnan error (one of them slips and falls, the stuff drops off stretcher - BOOM-, or any other numerous possible screw ups that could occur, but they would also have to carrry food/water and sleeping supplies for the trip, which i am guessing would take upwards of a mopnth,m at least, and there did ot seem to be any towns or outposts along the way, so they would have to carry what they would use to survive..thus, a big burden further slowing the down.
they used the trucks b/c in that part town theye were the oly vehiclees that could make the trip across the terrain. they demonstrated early on that the nitro was extremely volatile, hence the need to move slowlynot only that, but the oil company didnt give them any better vehicles b/c the drivers were considered expendablethats why they sent 2 trucks
yeah, they would have to blow up the log across the roadthey could nt move it any other way, and they did have this explosive handy , why not
i personaly thought it was veryh suspensefulnot in an action hero type way, but i really felt that 'slow burn' of knowing that the slightest bump might set off the nitro
tyou are entitled to your opinion, but i thought it was really good. not as good as wages of fearbut i doubt youd like that eitherm, as its essentiall the same story
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nickt030 — 18 years ago(April 28, 2007 04:40 AM)
synapse256,
You were not misled by the "very high rating" that you refer to. You are just pissed off because you are part of the minority of viewers that disliked the film. Either that, or you are just being a troll! -
gayspiritwarrior — 18 years ago(May 26, 2007 04:50 PM)
My point in what has admittedly turned into a rant was only to make 1 thread in a board full of "best movie ever" type threads that acknowledges that this movie was deeply flawed and isn't going to be enjoyed by a large number of people.<<
But you haven't done that, because it HAS been enjoyed by the majority of those who've seen it. No movie pleases everyone. All you've done is demonstrate that you're part of a minority that doesn't like this "deeply flawed" one. I'm sorry for you that you had to sit through a boring movie. I hope that turns out to be the worst that ever happens to you.
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karv-1 — 17 years ago(July 16, 2008 02:36 PM)
If you take a look at the box office numbers that this film took in at the time of its release, you'll realize you're not picking apart a smash hit here anyway. So what is your point? I think that the people who did enjoy this movie are appreciating it now for its directing, acting, musical score and overall atmosphere because they don't make many movies with this kind of feeling and sense of tension to them anymore. You should spend more time tearing apart films that deserve it, like the last Die Hard or Indiana Jones movie. Films that people aren't going to acknowledge 30 years from now because they REALLY DON'T deserve it.
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tonyvidal — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 09:39 PM)
I don't know if anyone else on this thread has thought this through, but why in the world would you haul unstable, defective nitro through the jungle, taking at least a week or longer to rehab some nasty old trucks first when wait for it you could simply order some new, stable explosives, nitro or whatever,and have it airshipped in overnight from Miami. DUHHH!!! Despite this gigantic plot hole, I still loved the artistry of the movie. Friends used to watch it at the Nuart in West LA in the pre-video days. It was easy to get a contact high there, if you know what I mean.
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obliv — 19 years ago(March 15, 2007 02:46 PM)
you know, you are welcome to your opinion, but i have long been bothered by the criticism of 'this is stupid" for movies that are clearly produced and made by intelligent people. maybe you didnt like it. maybe t could have been better. but it is ot "stupid", as in appealling to and produced by and for stupid people.
there are movies that are for stupid peoplenorbit, being a recent example. ace ventura anoother. ernest goes to camp. iron eagle 3. kickboxer. i could go on.
but not sorcerer.
and i know you didnt do this, synapse256, so its not aimed at you but the best is 'i didnt get itthis movie was stupid" YOU didnt get it and the MOVIE was stupid?
if you are reading this, please think about it before you use 'stupid' or 'dumb' as a descriptor in the futurei will continue to harp on it. hopefully, we can change it -
Byzantine15 — 18 years ago(July 09, 2007 02:44 PM)
To OP:
"I honestly was rooting for the damn trucks to just blow up so the stupid movie could be over"
If you want the movie to be over, turn off the player, get up and leave. No more movie! It ain't complicated. -
Huntauk — 17 years ago(May 19, 2008 12:02 PM)
to obliv -
i wouldnt worry about the half baked opinions of the average viewer, most classics such as this receive poorly developed criticisms based on very little other than that the film wasnt as accessible to them as much as Highlander 2, Robocop3 and the films you listed. if you think the OP here needs pulling up go to Night of The Hunter forum and see the idiotic comments of a certain pleb im dealing with right now, people like this seem ten a penny right now. -
xanadu_dan — 11 years ago(April 14, 2014 02:48 PM)
Versace, you really need to be more careful with your spelling, grammar, and punctuation if you want to demonstrate an IQ in the 90th percentile. Other than that, "good" and "bad" are subjective opinions whose truth only extends as far as the person holding that opinion. Anyone can like or dislike whatever they want to, there's no correct or incorrect to that.
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Strangerhand — 11 years ago(March 16, 2015 12:18 AM)
You have like a 90 I.Q.? Ah, boy! I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.
I'm certainly no dumb or stupid
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