I'm not a deep thinker like you, Sim.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 20, 2016 05:27 PM)
Right. I'm not a deep thinker, and problems expressing myself at times. All true. But, that doesn't mean I'm not intelligent, or smart or whatever. Just that, there's no need to waste brain power over thinking 40 year old movies. There are more important things to use brain power for. Reading books, doing cross word puzzles, Jeopardy. Lol. If he wants to sit there over analyzing things, even if he types it out quickly, so be it. That's not my style, and it doesn't make me dumb, because I like to be in and out quickly. Insert sex joke here, Barn. He said I didn't have the "capacity", by the way, which means intelligence. So, he did in fact call me dumb, hence the list. As far as Loomis goes, because she's ugly! I don't mind you finding her attractive, I guess. I'm more appalled that you think she's the MOST attractive in the movie. Not even close.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 20, 2016 07:24 PM)
I'm not a deep thinker, and problems expressing myself at times.
There you go. Right there. You said it yourself. "I'm not a deep thinker.""I have probems expressing myself at times."
He's not calling you stupid. He's merely stating that you yourself admitted that you have problems in these areas.
At the same time you called people who disect this movie losers. Just because they choose to put thought into this movie doesn't mean that they're over thinking it. It just means that they're taking a different approach as you.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 09:19 AM)
And of course, never in his reign at IMDb has he called anyone "dumb"!
Hypocrisy does make me smile!
Yes it is quite laughable.
Let's not forget his comment to someone who said they didn't care for The Wizard of Oz:
Anybody who doesn't like this classic movie is a dumb son of a bitch.
Imagine if one of us called
him
that because he prefers Halloween II?
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simest — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 11:10 AM)
Or this little gem from not too long ago:
Well, I'm sorry to say this, Sim, but if your sister doesn't like the Beatles, she's the nutjob
I think he's fled to the refuge of his ignore switch because I was hitting too many sore spots! And none of them untruthful.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 11:40 AM)
Or this little gem from not too long ago:
Well, I'm sorry to say this, Sim, but if your sister doesn't like the Beatles, she's the nutjob
I think he's fled to the refuge of his ignore switch because I was hitting too many sore spots! And none of them untruthful.
Ah yes, I remember that one.
That's probably what happened. Funny thing is you were basically telling him things that he had already stated about himself!
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 09:46 PM)
You two are sick bastards! What the hell? Do you Have EVERYTHING I've ever said catalogued? There's no way you can quote me so easily if you didn't. I don't even remember what I say half the time.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 09:57 PM)
They do not. Not verbatim. Just admit you have my posts marked, or catalogued, or highlighted or something, or you'll be place on ignore too. If there's one thing I can't stand it's a liar.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 10:03 PM)
Well if I told you that I had your posts catalogued or highlighted then I would be a liar. I do not. I have better things to do than comb through your post history looking for dirt on you.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 09:42 PM)
Did you read anything I said? He said I don't have the capacity, insert mental capacity to write long drawn out, posts. Lack of mental capacity = dumb. Clear as day, Barn. You didn't you see him say that? Lack the capacity?
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simest — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 02:30 PM)
Man! I really hate to do this, because you're typically a quality poster, and over the years, I've enjoyed our chats, but you just made the list!
Then you shouldn't put us in this position.
You alone have created this situation by bringing me into a discussion (which of itself would be fine) - only then to reveal your true intent to scoff at how I post.
You should know by now that we can have quality discussion as much as you like if everything is kept respectful. Sadly you have a tragically unwise tendency to only go so long before you orchestrate trouble by saying things that are more about me than the active topic.
As I've said,
"That's what I was looking for! Lol."
tells me a lot about your intentions in directing me to a lengthy post that would inevitably necessitate a lengthy response that you could then poke fun at on account of it's depth and deliberation.
That might be fine with those who will take that kind of nonsense from you lying down but you should know also that if you mix it with me you may end up in an exchange you might not enjoy.
Dealing with you is not a challenge for me and we can do this all year long if that's how you really want it.
It's completely up to you.
I don't need to be talked down to by some arrogant, asswhole.
Then stop acting like one.
By the way, whether you believe it or not, I have a better grasp on Halloween than you ever will, and my theories are sound.
Just keep telling yourself that!!!
Your comical history of half-baked speculations on this board tell me quite the opposite.
And didn't you once say in fact that NOBODY had a better grasp of HALLOWEEN than you?
I guess that must include me..in CJ-Land!
Back on Planet Earth however, you're some distance behind many regulars on this board in my view. You barely discuss anything beyond surface level.
I brought it back for you. Good day!
Brought what back? Good day!
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TCCPhreak — 9 years ago(October 16, 2016 09:03 AM)
Hi Simest, thanks for your response and I'm sorry it took me so long to answer.
It works the other way for me.
It's those later films that parodied movies like this that I find absurd. SCREAM being the chief example.
A movie playing what later became cliches straight is something I can take at face value, dismissing any later misuse of those traits.
Of course there are cliches that have been parodized a lot and it's kind of hard to blend out the parodies when watching the original. Kudos to you for being able to do that.
But then there are other points for which "parodied" is not exactly the right word. Later movies simply pointed out that some typical scenes are absurd to begin with and with that knowledge, the original scenes may seem more funny than intended. In that case the original scene was flawed to begin with. In the other one the original scene is great and only the perception is different.
I think that Halloween contains some of both.
(concering Jump Scares)
I agree with this but would argue that HALLOWEEN is quite sparing in it's jump scares and feel the few it offers are indeed executed well.
It seems like I have a different definition of "Jump Scare" - or haven't seen many movies with more abundance than that.
I took may of those scenes where "nothing happenes" except the Shape being visible to the viewer - but no one else - as Jump Scenes. The defining point being the music telling me to be scared (even if I can't see a reason to be).
Watching the Shape watching the characters seems so "done".
It's easy to say this now of course but as you might concede, it was far from "done" at the time. The very nature of this film revolves around the killer stalking his victims.
I think it makes a great difference whether the characters are aware that they are being stalked. In this movie they are not aware of anything being wrong.
Michael does not use the time to prepare anything. He simply is there and watches. It doesn't feel like he failed some chances and his victim got away. It doesn't feel like he's "getting closer" (although I don't remember the exact order of scenes). He just shows the viewer that he hasn't forgotten about his victims - it's just a secret between viewer and Michael.
For me there is no monster.it is indeed simply "a guy with a mask" - and a knife.
I think Michael is meant to be a "monster" - a personification of evil. If it was merely a guy with a mask, he could have been killed.
Of course, monsters walking around in plain daylight is a scary thought.
"signature knife"
I'm not sure what special meaning one would require it to have. It is simply a weapon, a tool for his agenda as it was when he was six years old.
The knife was played up on the BluRay-Cover and I believe that it was also played up on the movie posters. I would have expected it to have some special meaning.
For me only Lynda is strangled.
Bob is very clearly killed by knife penetration resulting in impalement (far more than a finishing touch for me) and in Annie's fatal moment her throat is slit.
I forgot that Annie's throat was slit. Somehow, to me all those three were dead once Michael started strangling them.
In contrast to that, Laurie is directly attacked with the knife - and survives. Somehow, Michael is more successful when strangling.
The knife is very much the killing tool in each case I'd say and added to Judith's death at the opening, I feel the promotional artwork on the Bluray is very fitting.
If he ended every murder with the knife, I would consider that "signing" the murder with it - but it's not that. It's just a tool in some of these.
"signature mask"
Again.I'm at a loss as to why it should hold some special meaning. No more than the clown mask he used when he was six.
The point is perhaps that he was masked when he first killed and simply must be again to continue killing. It's just part of his psychosis.
So in a way, he can only become the killing shape when he's masked? This could explain why he had to use the bedsheet at one point and why he didn't sign the murder with his knife as the bedsheet was pulled off (although he did have his original mask under the sheet, didn't he?).
If the movie focusses on one guy and his psychosis, this somehow weakens the idea of a faceless evil and an unkillable boogeyman. It seems like whenever I find a perspective to enjoy the movie from, something flaws that perspective..
What it became was something altogether different. A blank canvass onto which we could project our darkest imaginations regarding what lay beneath.
And right or wrong, it also became one of the most iconic figures in horror film folklore.
In a way I can understand that - "nothing is scaries than your own imagination" - and as humans we are used to reading faces - so if there is no face to read, it should be very unnerving.
Still, in this movie it fails for me. We know what's under that mask: It's the little boy from the beginning of the movie, grown up. He has no ultimate dark and mysterious m -
cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 16, 2016 09:28 PM)
Wow. Where do you guys find the time? That's take me an hour to type. Especially on my phone. Regarding Halloween II, there's not a lot more blood. More, definitely. But, it's not a Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street when it comes to blood. Just ups the gore slightly.
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simest — 8 months ago(August 02, 2025 03:17 PM)
Regarding Halloween 2: Is it true that there is much more blood in it? I kind of liked that Halloween did not rely on that.
Yes, Halloween II takes a more graphic approach with the kill scenes…but for me, lacks the suspense of the original.
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Metal_Basher — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 07:22 AM)
Millennials, such as yourself, think Halloween is boring because there is not enough eye candy in it.
Those of us who think atmosphere is a lot more important than cheap thrills dig Halloween aplenty.
May I suggest you stick with pop culture superhero movies like "Deadpool", they are more appropriate for you're kind.
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Mr_Pipes — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 08:12 AM)
This has been one of my favourite movies ever since I first saw it back in the 90s. At no point since then did I ever consider myself to be 'cool' just because I like it. Maybe the people who do genuinely love it can see more in it than you can.