Martin Remake
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patchofblue65 — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 09:11 AM)
I always love it when people criticize movie by saying it's "dated". WTF when I watch a movie from the 1970's I don't expect the people to be using Cellphones or PC's. There are no ATM's but I expect to see alot of big American cars, sideburns and long hair.
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thecultofhorror — 16 years ago(February 20, 2010 01:00 PM)
The thought of remaking this is nauseating.
Sadly, I think there are people with money who want to produce the next horror remake looking in areas like message boards to see if there is a cult following on a specific film that would create enough interest for a semi successful remake.
If Martin was remade, it wouldn't transition well into a modern film because the location of Martin, the old towns, the old people were such a big backdrop and added personality to a film that could only be captured in a specific time and place in classic Americana.
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smashsmack — 16 years ago(March 14, 2010 06:33 PM)
A re-make doesn't seem to be that far of a stretch, especially considering the censors aren't as strict as they were when it was originally made. If anything Romero movies make the best remakes and if Romero were to get involved, I think we'd be able to see his full vision.
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smerd_70 — 16 years ago(April 03, 2010 07:37 AM)
"I always love it when people criticize movie by saying it's "dated". WTF when I watch a movie from the 1970's I don't expect the people to be using Cellphones or PC's. There are no ATM's but I expect to see alot of big American cars, sideburns and long hair."
Couldn't agree more.
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rossrjensen — 15 years ago(April 12, 2010 07:42 PM)
I'm not saying the movie is dated because people are from 1970. I don't like it when people don't understand what someone is saying so they make up a meaning for it.
When people say that something is dated, it means that the ideas don't translate over very well to a modern audience. When people say that it has aged well, it means that the ideas being presented are just as applicable to a modern audience as it was to the audience it was created for.
I have yet to see a legitimate reason why most the people that have posted on here are opposed to re-makes (not just Martin, there seems to be vitriol spewed towards ALL re-makes.) I'm certainly not saying they should make a re-make that is similar to Twilight with the name Martin stamped on it, I'm saying it would be good to see the Martin story re-done. They could set it in the 70's for all I care, I just think it would be interesting to see how they would flesh out the same ideas given another opportunity and greater funding. -
ATMinotaur — 12 years ago(May 16, 2013 09:40 AM)
I just think it would be interesting to see how they would flesh out the same ideas given another opportunity and greater funding.
What do you mean by this?
If you mean something along the lines of the idea, of not knowing if Martin is actually a vampire or not. Then a remake is not what you are after, this is what non remakes (aka original films) do anyway. And therefore making the idea of remaking any specific film unnecessary. Take slasher films, a lot use the same basic idea, and flesh them out in new stories for a different audience, same with and story grouping.
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rossrjensen — 15 years ago(April 12, 2010 07:52 PM)
"I think a lot of the depth and richness of the original would almost certainly be lost. The social upheaval of urban America in the 70's (viz. secularization, deindustrialization, white flight) is a major theme in Martin, and the way Romero skillfully and (relatively) subtly works those issues into the movie gives it a lot of the resonance it has."
I suppose this is probably why I said the movie seemed a little dated. You're not going to find many people who grew up in later decades that are going to understand those themes clearly - and it's not because they aren't intelligent enough, it's because they didn't live through it. However, the idea of "real life vampire" could easily be carried over and given different social commentary (and I think both of us would agree that this would be the challenge to doing a remake) it could take one interesting idea and put it in a setting that would be more relatable to today's audience.
"the kind of working-class ethnic white people this movie is about have largely left America's urban areas now."
Maybe a place to start would be to take the thematic concerns and put it in a suburban setting.
Social commentary could still certainly exist. In fact, that's what I like about Romero's Martin so much, is how maleable and flexible his idea is. He seemed to have effectively done this with some of his zombie movies, and I don't see any reason why he couldn't do the same with his "vampire" movie. -
thecultofhorror — 15 years ago(April 24, 2010 01:47 PM)
It is sad when I visit the "Martin" boards and see you are still posting in this same thread about the remake.
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rossrjensen — 15 years ago(April 26, 2010 03:09 PM)
Yes, I like to follow up with what I started. Why don't you try addressing the subjects being posted. If you don't have anything productive or worthwhile to add, then don't post. It's as simple as that.
This thread is titled "Martin Remake", I started it because it's a subject of interest to me, and you don't see me posting the same stuff elsewhere. I am not opposed to people posting their reasons why they don't like the idea, as long as they are constructive with it and take into consideration what I've said rather than simply being dismissive and attempting to be belittling.
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ddwookie — 10 years ago(November 20, 2015 12:35 PM)
Well, they shouldn't have remade Psycho, Dawn/Day of the Dead, Halloween, The Fog, Assault on Precinct 13 or Poltergeist, but they did. The new Friday the 13th I just look at it as a part 12, with F vs J as a part 11.
The remake of Dawn, outside of not enough big feasting scenes, too many characters to not care about and not enough human/zombie interaction (thanks to the mall being closed in the remake) was a fun zombie romp, and aside from the first Return of the Living Dead, one of the few to have successful running zombies. The infected in 28 Days/Weeks Later as well as Deodato's City of the Walking Dead were infected, not technically dead, so I have no problem with them windsprinting around. After Dawn '04, though, it was like everybody had to jump on the band wagon and have running zombies.
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I_Bystander — 15 years ago(September 17, 2010 01:34 AM)
Yes, I think Martin should be brought to a new audience unwilling to accept the slow pace and poor production values of the original. More-so Jack's Wife / Season of the Witch, though. I have no problem with remakes and would rather see a remake of a gret film than another poor film about fast cars and fisticuffs.
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zerobeat — 15 years ago(January 29, 2011 08:26 PM)
The best remakes have indeed been ones where the original wasn't excellent. The original versions of The Fly, The Thing, Invasion of the Body Snatchers were never considered the best in their day, but had some decent premises. I'm sure that if IMDB existed 60 years ago, these films would haven't gotten great reviews by all and many would be espousing how they "could have been so much better and here's how".
The Day The Earth Stood Still, Manchurian Candidate, Village of the Damned, Planet Of The Apes considered excellent in 1951, 1960, 1962 and 1968. The remakes had nowhere to go but down (if they weren't going to just copy them verbatim).
A remake of Last Action Hero would be nice. So many missed opportunities with that neat premise.