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is he really 84 years old?

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    dorian06 — 20 years ago(October 05, 2005 12:03 AM)

    I don't know if I would dismiss them so easily, that's the point of the movie, you're never supposed to know if it's all been beaten into his little awkward head by his family or if it is all true, you're not supposed to know, it's just one of those things. If you think he's a vampire the whole movie makes sense, if you think he's not a vampire, the movie still makes sense just in a different way.

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        drdebacle — 19 years ago(September 23, 2006 09:52 PM)

        George should not have said that!
        Still, I'm not going to let it sway my opinion on Martin's character. You know, sometimes I'm in the mood to believe he's a vampire, and other times I like to think it's all in his head, but just because George A. Romero stated that Martin is NOT a vampire, doesn't mean it's necessarily truebecause:
        A)George may have forgot due to his old age
        B)And George has literally gone senile
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          Slippery_Jack — 19 years ago(October 11, 2006 11:26 AM)

          "George should not have said that!"
          lol! He wrote the thing - he can say what he wants!
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            KidBugs — 19 years ago(October 27, 2006 12:32 AM)

            I forget the source of this, but once an art critic said about an artist's comment about the meaning of his painting:
            "Why should he understand what it means? He only painted it."

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              Tchoutoye — 15 years ago(September 06, 2010 06:33 PM)

              Never trust the teller, trust the tale.

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                markillby — 12 years ago(March 20, 2014 07:44 PM)

                Similar to what Mark Kermode, the film critic, said of Willem Defoe's views on AntiChrist - paraphrased "You're no expert on what the film means You only acted in it whereas I've seen it."

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                  SallyGoLightly — 19 years ago(November 04, 2006 07:51 PM)

                  I really think a lot of the meaning of the movie is lost if you don't lean
                  heavily toward believing that this is just a mixed up teenager.
                  This film is set in the real world. There are no vampires, only imperfect people.
                  To me, it is making a point about how the prejudices and superstitions of the older generations who believe 'they know best' lead to the alienation of
                  lonely youth like Martin. Brought up as a vampire-to-be, it is no wonder he
                  believes his family's tales, and clearly comes from an unstable background
                  which has led to his mental problems.
                  I think part of the reasons the flashbacks are in black and white and are
                  so repetitive is to give them a dream-like quality that suggests it is in
                  his imagination rather than an actual memory. WHat the flashbacks reflect more
                  than anything is Martin's sense of total detachment from and rejection by
                  every member of society.
                  i see this film as a metaphor for simply being a teenagerconfused, ashamed
                  of his sexual urges, constantly bombarded with hateful criticism it is no
                  wonder that Martin turns out so muddled and disturbed. 'There's no magic' -
                  he's just a kid.
                  and rather than trying to guide him or help him, older figures just try
                  to confine and supress him, refusing to accept his being a normal human
                  being, twisted by his family's faults.
                  so no. he's not really 84.

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                    orwellianamerica — 16 years ago(October 15, 2009 07:51 PM)

                    That's incredibly insightful. I feel you've really cornered what Romero was trying to do with this picture. Kudos!

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                        viraltest — 19 years ago(October 15, 2006 05:29 AM)

                        Well, his cousin did say he was born in 1892 or something so I don't know why he would say that to cover up a family disease.

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                          Virdrag — 19 years ago(October 20, 2006 09:17 PM)

                          A)George may have forgot due to his old age
                          B)And George has literally gone senile
                          Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the same reason? And yeah, he can say whatever he wants about his movie
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                            emmaA3 — 18 years ago(April 16, 2007 06:55 PM)

                            The thing is, that was a joke and it was FUNNY. Least thats how I took it
                            Anyway, haven't seem the picture yet but I have it in my blockbuster queue so I can't wait!

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                              tonycom5 — 18 years ago(May 15, 2007 09:00 PM)

                              He's not 84. He wasn't born in the 19th century. He's not a vampire. He's just a messed-up homicidal kid. There is no evidence that he really is a vampire. All of the creepy flashback scenes being in black and white, with period clothing and furniture (including a girl carrying candles in the dark instead of electric lights) were not flashbacks in reality but what this screwed up little boy imagined he remembered after a lifetime of being raised by lunatics like the colonel sanders wannabe.
                              If he is a vampire, a nosferatu as his insane "cousin" insists, with the superhuman ability to live 8 decades yet appear only as a teenager or preteen, why then doesn't he have any other superhuman powers that vampires are endowed with? Why can't he control people's or wild animal's actions, grow fangs, turn into a bat or wolf, crawl around on walls, have super human strength that could wipe out any cops, motorcycle gang members, drug dealers etc. instead of running in fear? Why does he need to get his blood by drugging victims to sleep and then slicing their veins open?
                              As someone else said, George Romero can say whatever he wants. It's his story. Nonetheless, he still leaves it open. In this regard, his opinion isn't any more influential than our own. The question is still open, which is how it should be. It's like did Arnold really dream all that adventure in Total Recall or was it real? Is this kid really a vampire or just a mixed up kid made even more mixed up surrounded by kooky lunatics? I think that it's more likely that this is a case of severe mental illness running in a family, not vampirism.
                              I may be wrong, but I doubt it. I think that we are supposed to question for a moment the possibility that this kid may be a creature and not human, so we can empathize with the "cousin", understand life through his eyes. Clear proof is never generated for either side (although there are substantial clues) and that makes the ultimate outcome and overall theme of the film, all the more powerful and chilling. It's a case of superstition gone haywire, out of control, leading to one senseless death after another(culminating in the old man killing Martin). Martin was already unbalanced and the normal confusions of an adolescent combined with his mental instability AND being condemned as an evil beast created a culture of murder that continues with the patriarch of the family burying the corpse of a child in his backyard as if he were doing God's work.

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                                jaimejeske — 18 years ago(August 20, 2007 10:24 AM)

                                In one of the "flashbacks", a priest is performing an exorcism in a bathroom. Martin is standing in front of a modern sink, and when the camera moves to the right, you see a modern toilet. For a movie as well-crafted as this one, that seems like a glaring oversight.

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                                  AlexLacourse — 18 years ago(November 20, 2007 02:48 AM)

                                  But at the same time, if the flashback sequences are just fabrications in Martin's mind, maybe he himself had a slip in logic? Maybe just a hint at the flaw in his fantasy?

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                                    Pillsburyboy — 18 years ago(November 22, 2007 10:03 PM)

                                    I watched this last night, and I gotta say it is a really interesting movie! I think the "family curse" was generational madness myself. I think there is much more proof to that end then there is of him actually being nosferatu. Anyway, I will definitely be watching this one again!

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                                      Xex-Arachnid — 18 years ago(February 10, 2008 08:55 PM)

                                      Aside from what Romero has supposedly said in an interview, I will say that he is (was) 84 years old and the whole point of the movie was that Martin was a real vampire but due to Hollywood's depiction of such creatures and Religious mania or old superstition manja, it has distorted the facts which make it easy for one (a vampire) to move about and kill people.
                                      I also feel that the flash backs are real and Martin, a wierd looking kid who's detached is as normal as anybody else with no super powers and or because of his condition he suffers both emotionally and physically from it. Today, such cases could be look at as a rare blood condition but back then (31 years ago) hey
                                      and my point is,
                                      how the hell can you not know 911 is the number to call if you have an emergency? But back then, in some small hokie-podunk Pennsylvanian town, who's to say?

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