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  3. Was this to show that Martin was going to stop killing? I've always felt that this scene displayed Martin's upcoming co

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    hitman80804 — 19 years ago(October 31, 2006 03:12 PM)

    Was this to show that Martin was going to stop killing? I've always felt that this scene displayed Martin's upcoming conformity. Anyone have any other ideas?

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      catholicschoolgrrrl — 19 years ago(November 14, 2006 10:15 AM)

      Hi There,
      If memory serves I do beleive that while filming Martin the crew happened across a parade that was going on in the neibor hood they were filming in. So they just decided to film it for fun, and John Amplas just decided to be weird and goofy. I think it fits really well with the charactor of Martin in a weird way, he's doing all these horrible murders ect but he is still in some ways just a naive strange boy I really don't see Martin as seeing himself as evil. Anyway the info on the parade is on the audio commentary for the lastest martin DVD which came out a year or two ago.

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        wvq2 — 16 years ago(February 13, 2010 02:48 AM)

        I also found this scene really interesting. The first thing that occurred to me while watching this recently is how odd the last 15 or so minutes of the film are. After all the slow build-up in the rest of the film, things seem to start going haywire. The film seems very controlled and focused until those final reels, and then it just starts going off in all directions. So much is happening, and a lot of it (e.g. the shootout, Martin killing the homeless man, the parade) doesn't seem consistent with what we've seen in earlier scenes. The tone and style of the movie seem to be changing in every scene in the final minutes, and it's a disorienting experience.
        One thing that occurred to me while watching these scenes is that the film starts to crack upmuch like Martin is cracking up psychologically. With the death of his one remaining friend, he's pushed over the edge and the movie goes with him. The movie has been so narrowly focused on Martin that its narrative starts to slip into incoherence when he loses his bearings and his place in the world.
        I also thought that maybe this scene was supposed to suggest that Martin was starting to identify with the (largely African-American) urban poor. For much of the movie, Martin seems trapped between two worlds: the world of the suburban middle class (the people who've left the city for a better life, and the people who live in the neighborhoods in which he delivers groceries and kills people), and the world of the urban poor (the kind of people who harrass the women at the grocery store and get shot up by the cops). The first world seems to be his dream(perhaps unconsciously) he wants that middle-class lifestyleand the second world seems to be the coming reality for him in his distressed working-class white neighborhood. And maybe Martin is starting to seeor at least feelthat he has more in common with the (largely minority) urban poor than he does with the middle-class people he preys upon; hence his participation in the parade. (And, of course, this adds an extra dimension to his death: Cuda's killing Martin is, in part, revenge against him for abandoning the middle-class and falling in with the poor. Note, also, that Cuda kills him because he believes Martin has killed a white suburban woman. That killing is revenge for betraying what Cuda believes to be their social class.)

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          MrBook_ — 15 years ago(January 09, 2011 05:36 AM)

          Man, if this movie were directed by anyone other than Romero I'd say that's a big reach, but I think you're really onto something. Even in a vampire movie he makes socio-political points.
          This is my new sig. Do you like it?

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            amd8404 — 15 years ago(February 19, 2011 06:22 PM)

            Excellent explanation.

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              zachtheman — 14 years ago(July 06, 2011 01:42 AM)

              the reason the film goes allover the place is because the move was originally the movie was almost 3 hours long and had to trimmed to get a commercial release and the longer cut of the movie is presumed long lost now
              but have sed that the way the film speeds up at the end is also interesting its like the pacing is like that of Requiem for a Dream think about it
              you will have to forgive the lack of full stops lack of proper spelling im dyslexic but not stupid

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