I've lost all respect for this film
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ewaf58 — 9 years ago(July 17, 2016 05:32 AM)
I am not a hater - I'm just was just trying too give an honest view. Stone's screenplay gave a totally dishonest portrayal of Turkish people.
Films that are based on true events should try and tell the truth otherwise people may assume that the events as shown in the film are what really happened leading to distorted views of the past. -
spookyrat1 — 9 years ago(July 17, 2016 08:25 AM)
Films that are based on true events should try and tell the truth otherwise people may assume that the events as shown in the film are what really happened leading to distorted views of the past.
If this occurred all the time the world wouldn't have a genre called historical fiction in either literature or cinema. We'd just be watching endless documentaries and there'd be more history channels. Seriously, most half way educated people don't always believe that what they see up on the screen is necessarily true. I really hope you're one of those educated people. At the moment, you're not really convincing me you are. -
ewaf58 — 9 years ago(July 17, 2016 10:17 AM)
Well I'm sticking to my guns in terms of 'Midnight Express' as it was such a distortion of the facts. It turned many people against Turkish people as it presented them as sadistic bullies.
Any film that manipulates the audience to this degree in the name of making money is without any merit.
A lot of films about the past are changed for dramatic purposes to suit the intended audience but this film went too far. -
spookyrat1 — 9 years ago(July 17, 2016 04:05 PM)
It turned many people against Turkish people
as it presented them as sadistic bullies.
Where's your evidence for making a generalist statement such as that? The film has been fairly criticized for it's portrayal of the Turkish prison guards and a few legal representatives as been too one-sided. But think about it a little more. In most prison movies (some or at times all of) the guards are presented in a negative light, so we feel more sympathy for the inmates. Does that mean we all hate prison guards because of these negative portrayals?
A lot of films about the past are changed for dramatic purposes to suit the intended audience
Virtually all mainstream entertainments are. Face the facts. If they didn't do this, they likely wouldn't be classified as entertainment.
I'm sure that Midnight Express is vastly more commercially popular than any "documentary" on Billy Hayes. I'm also sure it didn't "turn the world against the Turkish people". May be, what it may have done, is make some people think twice about smuggling drugs. I'd hope you wouldn't condemn the film for that too. -
SealedCargo — 6 years ago(April 18, 2019 06:35 AM)
instead of going in tangents let us know what the documentary said
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ewaf58 — 10 years ago(May 22, 2015 03:15 PM)
It's a technically good film but should have been presented as a work of complete fiction. However even if marketed as complete fiction it would still of been harmful and dishonest towards Turkish people.
Its only get out of jail card - so to speak - would have been to have it set in some fictional state.
It's well acted - well directed but hateful rubbish. -
siukong — 10 years ago(June 18, 2015 12:29 PM)
It's interesting. Most people believe that knowing a movie is "based on a true story" will make it resonate more. This must be why these movies always tout that claim. Studies have shown, though, that it actually makes no difference at all. We react just as strongly to complete fiction. I wish that more people knew this, so we wouldn't have that sense of forced verisimilitude.
I wonder how many people just blindly accept these stories as the truth, when in reality they're mostly BS. In the worst cases, the only thing true about them are the most general of facts (the one-sentence summary). -
SealedCargo — 6 years ago(September 28, 2019 10:46 PM)
Oliver Stone won an Oscar for it, so people assume that Hollywood read the book it's adapted from and that it has some truth. but back then no one knew Oliver Stone fabricates everything. the funniest thing is when the dad blames Nixon for his son's arrest. and then compares smuggling a load of hashish to his (the dad's) generation drinking booze. that's always been the weakest loophole, comparing a few stiff drinks after a day's work with dropping acid and smoking pot all day, and doing coke and meth and hash and on and on.
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SealedCargo — 6 years ago(September 28, 2019 10:43 PM)
it was also far too EASY for a movie about a living nightmare. he makes instant friends with three cool guys who give him heroin basically and it just didn't have the kind of vibe of a more intense prison flick.
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