did he come back for max?
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design-57 — 17 years ago(April 10, 2008 11:03 AM)
I love this thread! Here are a few of my favorites (SPOILER ALERT!)
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Jennifer dies and then when Oliver Barrett IV
runs into his father outside of the hospital, Oliver tells him, "Love means never having to say you're sorry."
During the entire time that Dr. Malcom Crowe has been treating Cole "I see dead people" Sear, Dr. Crowe has been dead.
Covington is actually located inside an enormous wilderness preserve.
Sonny and Sal get the police escort from the bank to the airport, but the driver turns out to be an undercover cop. They don't get away; in fact, Sal is killed.
Thelma & Louise drive off a cliff into the Grand Canyon."
Tristan is killed by a bear.
"Mo chuisle" literally means "My pulse", but can mean "My love" or "My darling". Frankie mercy-kills Maggie. -
the_gof — 17 years ago(June 15, 2008 02:58 PM)
A title such as "Question about Max SPOILER" would have been a more considerate title as I hadn't seen the film when I saw this thread's name, you absolute bastard."
That's a spoiler? Really? Here are a few more for you, then:
In 'Titanic', the ship sinks
Trainspotting isn't really about train-spotting
The character 'Count Dracula' turns out to be a vampire
Oranges really are not the only fruit
It turns out that Bruce Wayne was Batman all along
Bond kills the bad guy in the end
The main character dies in The Passion of The Christ
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tessany — 18 years ago(May 30, 2007 10:18 AM)
Since the book was co-written by Billy Hayes, doesn't it kinda follow that he got out of the prison? Or were we to think he was still languishing away in a foriegn prison, his story being smuggled out to the entire world to let people know "Hey, drug smugglers in Turkey are treated harshly and unfair."
Thanks for giving me a good giggle with your apparent gullibility.
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tyranny-message — 18 years ago(May 07, 2007 07:14 PM)
OK, I guess we all know by now that there are spoilers on this thread. And there's gonna be a bunch more in this post, so be aware
I want to repeat the post above me because the original poster may not have seen this answer since it's nested down here. Max is actually released from prison before the book is published. I read the book because I absolutely had to know what happened to Max!!!!
This is one of the many liberties that Oliver Stone takes with Billy Hayes' book. Max was not languishing in section 13, he was actually being fairly well cared-for in the hospital ward due to his severe drug addiction. Thank goodness, cuz that last scene with Max nearly broke my heart!!!!
Billy never was raped, he never killed a guard, and actually didn't escape from section 13 at all (he was only in section 13 for about a month early on in his sentence). He was transferred to another prison on an island and escaped in a boat during a storm. A very exciting read, I'm not sure why the real escape wasn't used in the film.
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tyranny-message — 18 years ago(May 26, 2007 12:35 PM)
Well, I think Oliver Stone made a very compelling movie about the horrors of being in a foreign prison. The beatings alone would have been enough to make his point, though. I'm not sure why he had to make ALL of the Turkish people bad. Maybe they shouldn't have called it a "true story" with the major changes that were made. And Billy's real escape was pretty amazingI don't know why they had to change it.
There's another thread on this board that has a link to an interview with Billy Hayes on youtube; Billy regrets how anti-Turkish the movie turned out to be, because even now that Interpol no longer has an escaped-prisoner alert out for him, he still can't return to Turkey to see his friends because of the damage this movie did. So, yeah, I agree that Oliver Stone is really off his rocker sometimes ("JFK", anyone?). -
stevenackerman69 — 18 years ago(January 08, 2008 08:11 PM)
The thing that gets me about the film is the way no subtitles are used when the Turks speak. I guess the idea was to show everything from Billy's point of view where he couldn't understand the language at first and had to learn it. It is like in Not Without My Daughter, which was written by the same person who co-wrote Midnight Express.
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tyranny-message — 18 years ago(January 09, 2008 06:09 AM)
You make a very good point about the language issue. There's that initial confusion when he doesn't even know what's going on when they are searching and interrogating him, and the film portrays that very well. In the book, there was one person after another after another coming in and shouting at him, it went on for most of the day. Despite Oliver Stone's hyperbolizing about the Turkish people, it really is a very powerful film that really captures the essence of Billy's experience.
