Alien= Man?
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 02:26 AM)
It doesnt say it was a queen though nor was it explained that even worst in the film.
Um, no. If you think the movie is really about a space alien your blind. The Alien is clearly an allegory for many issues and social commentary. The Nail in the coffin is that that the creator HR Ginger who made the iconic Alien is known for his Alien sexual creations and arts immensely. Look it up and figure it out. For whatever reason idiots out there havent noticed this and figured this except perhaps hardcore fans which is what I was looking to engage with.
I have hinted and explained how these are lead that way by being feminist and bashing men. Ripley was one of the strongest and most successful superhero women ever created and in many of the films there are clear indications of male bashing from rapes, to killing cromagneum types chivionisht to her being male dominant herself. It is just clear to see if you've seen them all and not just based on just this stupid one.
She didnt have to just be woman. Ripley is based on the director Ridley Scott who they happened to switch and make woman. Duh, for obvious reasons. They wanted to make spin on a male dominant character be a woman since everything else was cliche.
I have no problem with Strong capable woman. Im a feminist. I have problem with strong stupid lesbians trying to impose their stupid twisted agenda on society.
No, Im a big fan of Ripley, I just dont like these political agendas that they slant and trying to shove down on society and hatred of men.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 02:36 AM)
It did care though. You just missed the point.
Where did it implaint eggs on men?
The Alien Raped? Where?
The Director was dismissed after the first and the series took a turn of it's own so whatever your saying makes zero sense since these aliens were not of Ripleys anymore aside from the first.
Which is why they made these new ones based on Actual Ripley's creations.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 03:29 AM)
~~Anna~~ said...
I am going to stop you right there if you do not think the first 2 movies were the masterpieces. You are insisting the alien only impregnated females which is false and u know it. The Xenomorphes did not care who carried the damn eggs. Did u miss where they were bursting out of everyone? It makes sense the queen would want a hybrid from Ripley. You always pick the strongest of a species to have your baby. This is basic biology. You are trying to write fan fiction is all it boils down to. Feel free to do so but don't claim it is what the directer envisioned. This is a very good breakdown and explanation of the movies and novels
http://people.wku.edu/charles.plemons/wod/aliens_breeding.html
Aliens 2 was not made by Ripley.
Where did we ever see a man pregnant and producing an Alien?
What the Director invasion was along lost after the first and perhaps even in the first itself as it has a directors cut.
You never really counter anything I've said. All you do is consistently attack and push down your point without any strong opposition or even support for your strong statements.
The embroyos planted on males isnt what Im referring to when Im referring to Ripley being being pregnant with the aliens which was completely different as it wasnt done for scare effects as they others were.
You also did herald several insults to which I didnt really object to but you're the only one complaining.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 03:33 AM)
~~Anna~~ said...
I am going to stop you right there if you do not think the first 2 movies were the masterpieces. You are insisting the alien only impregnated females which is false and u know it. The Xenomorphes did not care who carried the damn eggs. Did u miss where they were bursting out of everyone? It makes sense the queen would want a hybrid from Ripley. You always pick the strongest of a species to have your baby. This is basic biology. You are trying to write fan fiction is all it boils down to. Feel free to do so but don't claim it is what the directer envisioned. This is a very good breakdown and explanation of the movies and novels
http://people.wku.edu/charles.plemons/wod/aliens_breeding.html
The purpose of the Aliens trying to be females and the queens not needing a man, nor a king male in the species and the males dying of after mating with the queens furthers my agenda of male hating while in reality no species really reacts like this and the metaphor is just construed for their own hatred agenda.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 02:37 AM)
At First I didnt call you stupid but because you reiterated it I felt so overwhelmed that it just came out.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 11, 2022 09:29 AM)
Now going to the usual route of wealth rankings without show. That would make royalty, right? Show us your decree.
and instead of sticking your uninvited nose in other people's business and then acting like your casting somebody with your wasteful time. How 'bout you go to a proper school and learn education and etiquette instead?
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 01:30 AM)
Yea but her family is mostly British and so is she. But good point nonetheless.
My point was mostly trying to point that it's a white British/American/White Woman with a black male like species typically representing interracial. Which is highly frown upon on these societies.
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degree7 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 03:11 AM)
The Alien is a mix of masculine and feminine attributes. The head is phallus shaped and it raped Lambert to death, but the mouth is vaginal in appearance and the Alien turns its prey into eggs. It is like motherhood run amok. Whereas Ripley appears more gender neutral.
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bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 03:37 AM)
Might have mix of attributes but it's behavior and appearance is clearly masculine.
The head is the purest obvious indicator.
I never thought of the mouth like that but it has an extension which to me was always a cock interpretation.
I have never thought of Ripley as neutral. I have always seen her with feminine sexuality but till now I have figured she was a feminist trying to embolden masculinity.
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degree7 — 3 years ago(April 03, 2022 06:45 PM)
Hmmm, interesting. In the original concept art by HR Giger the creature is much more feminized. Lots of vaginas and little babies crawling out of birth canals. Also in the script none of the characters are identified by gender, Ripley is written as a man in the screenplay. Subliminally the movie is basically a metaphor for rape and child-birth. Or the Alien is a parasite (STD?) killing off children in the womb. To me the Alien seemed more like a female apex predator like the pompilidae wasp, the way it injects its eggs into hosts.
What do you think of the sequel where Ripley is forced to become a mother and to battle an even bigger mother for possession of a child? -
bigbadwolf666 — 3 years ago(April 04, 2022 10:21 AM)
This was sort of the post I was looking for.
A lot of it I didnt really think or knew before hand.
Im not so sure I like Ripley as woman or man. If it was written as man than it shouldve been. I like how it turned out and the amazing performance of Weaver but I dont like the games of the sexes.
In that case, I much preferred the film version. As the Alien was perfectly done and I have seen Giger's artwork and I never liked it much. It all seemed too sexualized and not like the film's concept or for the purpose of it. He seemed to wave away from the films true intention and appear like a pervert.
Do you really think the film wouldve gone anywhere had they kept it as they originally intended? and what type of sick **** is Ridley if he is into this? If people only knew he'd have the opposite of his career.
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.