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    00Joseph00 — 15 years ago(September 06, 2010 12:39 PM)

    I like to watch.

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      rwsmith29456 — 15 years ago(December 05, 2010 06:33 PM)

      I thought it rather personal, like I was peeking at somebody, but I thought it did fit the movie and gave even more indication of how totally oblivious Chance was. A hot woman doing herself in order to please him didn't phase him.

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        PotassiumMan — 15 years ago(January 07, 2011 07:39 PM)

        I thought it was funny for the same reason as mentioned above. He's so naive and innocent that he has no idea what she's doing right there before him. Its a dirty scene, but oddly intriguing.

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          Pelikano — 14 years ago(April 07, 2011 11:08 AM)

          Yeah, it is kind of weird/funny/silly. But it's not to reveal his naivetethat could hardly be more obvious by this point.
          I've always thought it served a plot purpose: Chance is totally innocent about everything in the world, including sex. Yet the story requires Eve to fall in love with him, which helps line him up to step into Rand's shoes at the end (and possibly the presidency of the US as well). So we're supposed to take it that the problem of their sexual relations has been solved, for now and always.
          Yep, this scenario is hard to swallow. But then, a lot strange things are premised in this movie.

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            pennylane520 — 14 years ago(May 04, 2011 09:42 PM)

            I didn't think it was degrading at all. I think that's an uproarious scene and both of their performances are fantastic. When you're doing a comedic scene like that, you have to just totally commit and go for it and I thought MacLaine did a great job. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that scene.

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              A_Fistful_of_Pennies — 13 years ago(August 23, 2012 09:55 AM)

              I didn't really like it, not because I'm a prude. I just thought it wasn't necessary to the story for it to go on so long and I didn't really find it entertaining or funny. It was almost too awkward to watch, and while it was supposed to be, it didn't really add anything to the movie for me.

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                bsharporflat — 13 years ago(August 28, 2012 11:03 AM)

                Maybe it went on too long. I dunno..have to watch again. But I think it was an essential part of the movie.

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                  siiiva — 13 years ago(October 03, 2012 03:12 PM)

                  Chauncey attempting the Sirshasana yoga pose while Eve is masturbating on the bear skin rug? Omg I cracked up during this scene!!
                  Someone mentioned they thought Eve may have also been naive sexually but I find that hard to swallow. She's gorgeous and surrounded by powerful men. Yes they may be older but that didn't stop her from hooking up with Big Ben did it? I'm sure she's attracted to power and money and I'm betting she was getting plenty of offers on the side from Ben's various social circles.
                  The two intimate scenes were important to the character development of Eve: in the first, Eve learned about self control by witnessing first hand how Chauncey was able to contain himself in the face of temptation (from her perspective of course). And in the second, Eve became liberated from her desire for intercourse. She later says to Chauncey: "Desire flows within me and when you watch me, my passion it dissolves the desire. I reveal myself to myself and I am purged."
                  Everyone becomes enlightened by interacting with Chauncey in their own way and this is how it plays out for Eve.

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                    r-taylor13-848-416837 — 13 years ago(November 03, 2012 06:12 AM)

                    I thought it was well done, adding to the idea that Chance really didn't have to do anything and he made the people around him manifest their desires physically.
                    What she needed (and wanted, either consciously or subconsciously) was a good orgasm, and he obliviously gave it to her.
                    I liked the dead bear skin too, because that was basically what Chance's role was in the 'sex scene', a dead rug. But, it still worked for her.

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                      StevenSmithNYC — 12 years ago(May 01, 2013 02:33 AM)

                      I can't stand prudes. If either of them felt it was "degrading" they wouldn't have done the scene. It isn't like someone was standing behind the camera with a whip and a chair forcing them to do this.
                      The scene was flawless and it fit in perfectly to the film. But hey, if sexuality bothers you, stick with G rated movies. This was for thinking adults.

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                        KeithC — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 03:11 PM)

                        In the novel, it's the gay ambassador who masturbates in front of him.

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                          StevenSmithNYC — 9 years ago(July 01, 2016 12:37 PM)

                          The screen was great. It fit the film perfectly.

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                            edblackham — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 08:18 PM)

                            First time seeing the movie and the bear rug scene shouldn't have been included in the movie. Took it from a 9/10 for me to an 8/10. I did like him standing on his head during the end of the scene.

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