"The Last of the V8's" Theory
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mobocracy — 10 years ago(May 15, 2015 01:18 PM)
The only reason forced induction V8s are so expensive is that the only cars that have them are super expensive luxury cars, like AMG Mercedes S class, Bentley and so on.
I don't think as a technology, a forced induction V8 is necessarily that expensive considering the number of cars that have forced induction V6s and 4 cylinder engines. -
GatorMouth — 11 years ago(November 10, 2014 11:29 AM)
I take the car to have been built from salvaged parts "a piece from here, a piece from there".
The V8 351 Cleveland was really no more technologically advanced than any other standard push rod V8 engine. even the supercharger is old technology for that car.
the weiand supercharger is an aftermarket part. you can put it on just about any V8 of similar size with the right manifold, distributor, and compression ratio to get good power.
having watched it again since the OP I made a few weeks ago I am thinking that its possible that they didn't even build the engine, they took the engine in one piece from a different car and put it in the Falcon. if they were living in a time of limited resources they would not be able to just "find" proper pistons rings and rods on a crankshaft that would take the supercharger.
if the engine was already built and in a wrecked car they could take it because the hard part was done.
I am not saying my theory is right, it's just how I see it.
the guy at the junk yard with the used tires he offered Max, "I don't know where I got em, but I got em" makes me think that scavenging for car parts from the wrecks on the highways, is pretty common. -
paulhfromthedeep — 11 years ago(November 10, 2014 11:01 PM)
Yeah its deliberately vague. I know that the ACTUAL engines in real life are largely comparable, but within the 'movie lore' the suggestion is that there is something final and special about this last one. The last and the best. I think theres a risk of interpreting it too closely to what we now actually know of the engines of the time. As such its a sorta 'parallel universe' sort of movie. And yeah, scavenging has now become the norm. I actually live about 30-40 ks from Fat Nancy's (the roadhouse Goose started from), I know its a bit of a wreck but I might pop up there and take some photos.
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tenantennae — 11 years ago(December 02, 2014 02:17 PM)
You are correct; The line means it is just the last of the MFP Interceptors outfitted with a V8. This is confirmed in Mad Max 2 when the mechanic at the compound gushes "The last of the V8 Interceptors!"
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tenantennae — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 08:30 PM)
Ford thought so too
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Kruleworld — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 09:57 PM)
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tenantennae
I wonder if they didn't get the idea to used the name Interceptor from Mad Max.
I don't know, but they've used 'pursuit' since 1960 (Falcon XP)
http://www.auscarbadges.com/images/ford/IMG_0801.JPG
and it's still used by Ford Special Vehicles (FPV)
http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5190672 403145483416.jpg?aspect=centered&height=290&width=440
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Simon-140 — 9 years ago(April 26, 2016 07:44 AM)
There was a
Jenson Interceptor
, made in the UK, from 1966-1976.
I doubt the directors were bothered with things like trademarks. Why would they, when almost all the "stunts" were actually crashes, with the director screaming "To hell with the driver/rider and keep filming!" on roads that weren't even closed to the public?
You don't make a film for $100k without cutting lots of corners.
"If you ain't a marine then you ain't beep
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TerraFirma69 — 11 years ago(December 20, 2014 08:09 PM)
- Night rider stole a similar car for his chase and eventual death. there is a line about how that car is one of two (I think)
Can't remember that being mentioned, and in any case the car he stole was a different make (Holden) and was around well before 'max's' interceptor anyway so I'm not sure how it has any bearing on the Falcon being the last one or not.
(a piece from here a piece from there)
Don't you mean "a ppppppiece from here, a ppppppiece from there?" - the scene in the office, after Max views the black falcon interceptor for the first time the two men are talking about enticing him to stay with a hotrod the "candy". talking about a waste of money.
lol that does seem like an odd and very expensive tactic to employ to tempt a grown man to stay in a job he knows is messing up his head. Goose maybe, but not a responsible family man like Max.
then whoa, differences
- Night rider stole a similar car for his chase and eventual death. there is a line about how that car is one of two (I think)
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GatorMouth — 11 years ago(December 20, 2014 11:51 PM)
The Holden was also an "interceptor". Blacked out, hot engine different make but still very similar. parking the falcon next to the Holden it would be apparent that they were on the same team.
the way it seems to fit in my mind possibly that they had the Holden and the falcon left. probably because the fleet of cars has been decimated through car chases and collisions and not replaced . the Holden got destroyed by the night rider and that left the falcon to be the last of the V8's in police service.
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GatorMouth — 11 years ago(December 21, 2014 07:13 PM)
yeah I agree. I think the falcon was probably a car they already had and in the process of being "built" before the beginning of the movies timeline. it stands to reason that they built the holden with the intention of having the falcon too. once the holden was destroyed it put priority on the falcon to get it up and running so they would not be without a special pursuit vehicle.
but the holden couldn't have been that special if Max could run up on it with the yellow police car like everyone else had.
maybe I'm over thinking it but there seems to be layers of story that they left intentionally open to interpretation or just sloppy storytelling. lol -
TerraFirma69 — 11 years ago(December 21, 2014 07:48 PM)
You may be overthinking it. Everything indicates the Falcon was simply built as toy to seduce Max, and was never a part of anything beforehand.
I hear what you're saying about Max's pursuit car running down the Monaro at the start, but maybe the Night Rider wasn't that careful with it on his escape and subsequent flight 9he is after all a lunatic), and so it wasn't in the best shape by the time Max got involved. Plus, Max was the no.1 driver so he may have had the pick of the pursuit cars.
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TerraFirma69 — 11 years ago(December 21, 2014 09:43 PM)
Ah, I just broke out a copy on DVD and I notice that in the first scene, while the other bronze's car is marked 'pursuit' on the back, Max's is marked 'Interceptor'. I guess he was the main man with the good car after all.
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Kruleworld — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 09:54 PM)
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GatorMouth
but the holden couldn't have been that special if Max could run up on it with the yellow police car like everyone else had.
I'll quote that other famous Falcon driver:
"I've made a couple of special modifications myself".
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TerraFirma69
Ah, I just broke out a copy on DVD and I notice that in the first scene, while the other bronze's car is marked 'pursuit' on the back, Max's is marked 'Interceptor'. I guess he was the main man with the good car after all.
Big Bopper is Pursuit. March Hare (XA) is also Interceptor.
Did you notice the Monaro has MFP painted on the back? it's also got their logo on the rear quarters.
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