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Did Johnny deserve what Max does to him?

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    estcst-3 — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 08:56 AM)

    I agree with the general notion of Max losing it in MM and finding some form of redemption in MM2/RW but I have to disagree about being "just as bad" as Toecutter's crew in the first film He gave Johnny a real chance to live, that's more than the Goose ever got.

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      happy_apostate — 15 years ago(June 19, 2010 09:09 PM)

      Who else think johnny didn't deserve what max does to him at the end?
      Deserve's got nothin to do with it.
      A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence. - David Hume

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          Dream_Demon — 15 years ago(June 21, 2010 02:38 PM)

          To the topic creator: Yes, Johnny deserved to what Max did to him.
          Welcome to my Nightmare- Freddy Krueger

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            grrrdevin — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 02:00 AM)

            Of course! Anyone who doesn't subscribe to vigilante justice surely must be a liberal and not just, you know, civilized.
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              I_Created_U — 11 years ago(February 25, 2015 08:35 PM)

              Amen!
              People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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                lexyladyjax — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 01:37 PM)

                The OP must be a real Liberal.
                He BURNED MAX'S BEST FRIEND TO DEATH! (even though it could be argued that he dropped it after Toecutter throttled him)
                "You scum-sucking trash, THROOOOOOOOW IIIIIIIIT!" LOL
                Also, Max was at this point on a mission to execute all of the "skags".
                Liberal? What does being a Liberal have to with it? None of the dead had to make a choice whether to self-mutilate or die. If you can't see the difference you lack insight.
                There seemed to be something off about him psychologically. Nevertheless, Johnny shared responsibility for the deaths of Goose, Jessie and Sprog. In most value systems the punishment for those crimes is severe.
                Great white sharks are attracted to death metal music.

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                  shin0bi_ninja — 15 years ago(July 16, 2010 01:25 PM)

                  I think if Max had simply arrested Johnny, the film's climax would have been, well, an anti-climax.
                  Johnny murdered Jim Goose, and as a result, Max took revenge on his friend's killer.

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                    DarthBill — 15 years ago(July 16, 2010 08:59 PM)

                    Johnny killed Goose and was part of the murder of Max's wife & child. Johnny had it coming. You can't be the bad guy and not expect to be punished.

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                      Calmest — 15 years ago(July 20, 2010 08:01 AM)

                      Yeah,
                      well they were going to write it so that he arrests the guy
                      but then some number-cruncher decided that the title "Merciful Max" wouldn't sell movie tickets.
                      Go figure!

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                        garybatmanbusey — 15 years ago(July 21, 2010 02:27 AM)

                        johnny got everything he deserved!
                        "she's the tear that hangs inside my soul forever."

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                          agn-privat — 10 years ago(June 05, 2015 07:34 AM)

                          Funniest reply i've read in a long time:) thx for the good laugh!

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                            topher5001 — 14 years ago(June 27, 2011 01:37 AM)

                            Congratulations.this is the dumbest post I've ever seen on IMDB. You beat out a lot of tough competition.

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                              Druff — 14 years ago(June 30, 2011 01:11 PM)

                              Yes Johnny the Boy deserved it. And if you defend him, you deserve it too.

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                                I_Created_U — 11 years ago(February 25, 2015 08:41 PM)

                                What logic did you just apply here exactly?
                                People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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                                  brushfyr — 14 years ago(July 01, 2011 10:13 AM)

                                  See, this is why it's hard to tell who's dumb and who's a troll. I've read things similar to this in other boards.
                                  Ok he raped a girl and burned Goose TO DEATH but he shouldn't die over that.
                                  In a way, that's why it's Mad Max, he's had enough of scum like that and a legal system that can't control them. The police couldn't prevent the NightRider from escaping, couldn't prevent the gang from stealing and attacking the citizens of that small town so Johnny get's let loose. The criminal system in the movie wasn't able to deal with such things. Max had had enough, and that's why he killed the gang. Was he justified in killing Johnny? Sure, why not, Johnny was evil and the courts couldn't stop him. Max could. Why don't you think rape and murder are reasons for being killed yourself? Was Johnny justified in rape or killing Goose by burning him?

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                                    Foxtrot_X-Ray — 14 years ago(August 23, 2011 06:18 PM)

                                    "Deserved" Is ENTIRELY up to each of our opinions.
                                    But in all that, we're losing sight of the whole point.
                                    Max was Good Cop driven mad by the murder of his wife & son.
                                    Whether or not any of the Bikies "Deserved" to meet the ends that Max dealt them is immaterial.

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                                      gary_overman — 14 years ago(August 28, 2011 03:20 AM)

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                                      In a way, that's why it's Mad Max, he's had enough of scum like that and a legal system that can't control them. The police couldn't prevent the NightRider from escaping, couldn't prevent the gang from stealing and attacking the citizens of that small town so Johnny get's let loose. The criminal system in the movie wasn't able to deal with such things. Max had had enough, and that's why he killed the gang. Was he justified in killing Johnny? Sure, why not, Johnny was evil and the courts couldn't stop him. Max could. Why don't you think rape and murder are reasons for being killed yourself? Was Johnny justified in rape or killing Goose by burning him?

                                      Legally, of course he was wasn't justified.
                                      But, I agree with the point made in the quote, too. The courts were seemingly unable to deal with the situation, so someone had to step in.

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                                        StarrySkyWaltz — 14 years ago(December 06, 2011 09:18 AM)

                                        No, I would not arrest him, he needed to die before he killed anybody else.

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                                          Blueghost — 14 years ago(December 28, 2011 10:35 AM)

                                          The man was psychopathic scum. Max gave him a chance. It was more than he deserved.

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