Dickenson says she deserved an Oscar.
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renatom1 — 11 years ago(October 12, 2014 04:23 PM)
It doesn't matter whether Angie thought she could win an Oscar or not. 1980 was a pretty competitive year for actresses. Had she been nomiated, she would have had to compete against Mary Tyler Moore for
Ordinary People
and Sissy Spacek for
Coal Miner's Daughter
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PrometheusTree64 — 11 years ago(October 29, 2014 04:52 PM)
Angie specified the supporting category. But not only did she not want her name submitted in that category, the Filmways Studio was too small to really afford a campaign.
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bliss66 — 10 years ago(December 25, 2015 03:54 PM)
At the time the interest in her performance was about the use of a body double.
A supporting nod, maybe, but a win in either category - I doubt it. It was a very hard "R" rating initially an "X" - and not in a naive kind of "Midnight Cowboy" way.
What clip would they consider? The scene where she fantasises about getting raped in the shower? The scene where she has sex with a stranger in a cab? Or the scene where she gets slashed to death in an elevator? It wasn't really AMPAS stuff. -
gobears87 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 04:09 AM)
She's really good in the art gallery sequence.
I don't think she had a chance to win an award. The film is so lurid and melodramatic, I don't think her role would be taken seriously by other members of the academy. -
InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 01:06 PM)
I don't think she had a chance to win an award. The film is so lurid and melodramatic, I don't think her role would be taken seriously by other members of the academy.
Janet Leigh was taken seriously in what was a an even more lurid non-Academy type of film, and 20 yrs earlier. I don't that is the reason Angie didn't receive it. Leigh had more range and nuance demanded of her in her role (even without a shower-sequence). She expressed more of what she was feeling (a repressed-hysteria) without dialogue, than Angie did.
I have a problem with praise given to non-dialogue acting and think it's a gray area; judging a performance by facial expressions. Not to say that Angie is not a worthwhile actress, but if you could translate her emotions as expressed non-verbally during that art gallery sequence into verbal-acting, I wonder if it would be as effective. Raquel Welch can be effective with non-verbal acting, until she starts speaking (though I'm not comparing Welch with Angie). Being able to emote physically without dialogue seems to be in a different category. Now, if there was a scene with Angie genuinely inducing tears without a cut-away, that would be different.
Also, "ego" has taken on a negative connotation; you can a very nice person and still have a big ego. One is exclusive of the other -
rascal67 — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 12:06 AM)
Janet Leigh was taken seriously in what was a an even more lurid non-Academy type of film, and 20 yrs earlier.
I don't see how Psycho-60' is more lurid than Dressed To Kill-80'. Psycho was sensational and broke ground and boundaries for "it's time"; but DTK has way more graphic sexual and violence themes in it and still had plenty of shockable elements for audiences of the late 70's, even if it mirror's the Hitchcock classic. I would agree though, that Leigh gave a technically better performance than Dickinson, I just relate more to Dickinson's character and the way she portrayed it.
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InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 01:05 AM)
What clip would they consider? The scene where she fantasises about getting raped in the shower? The scene where she has sex with a stranger in a cab? Or the scene where she gets slashed to death in an elevator? It wasn't really AMPAS stuff.
It's more than it not being AMPAS stuff; she didn't have enough to do. Maybe if she had one Beatrice-Straight/Network scene, then. But her scenes were short, and non-verbal which is difficult to interpret when you judge a nomination. The museum sequence was not enough. Also, I find that Dickinson mostly plays herself in her films. -
I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 06:34 PM)
Angie Dickinson's performance was very good. She played the warm, slightly lost and searching middle-aged housewife very well, and she expressed a variety of emotions convincingly. I think that if Angie had been content to campaign for a best supporting nod, she might have gotten it, ala Janet Leigh in "Psycho", but Angie's role really did not merit a leading credit.
As far as egotistical, you really need to hear the way Angie made the comment. The line in itself isn't necessarily egotistical.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 03:17 AM)
Angie Dickinson's performance was very good. She played the warm, slightly lost and searching middle-aged housewife very well, and she expressed a variety of emotions convincingly.
Yes, Dickinson conveyed a "real" woman who was frustrated and slightly aloof; but came over as a warm and loving lady who could have been any good boy's nice mother. It is understandable how upset your son was and wanted to get to the bottom of her demise. He loved her very much.
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I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 05:36 AM)
Yeah, whenever I watch DTK, I am kind of surprised by how moved I am by the mother/son relationship. Like you said, Rascal, they loved each other very much. To be honest, I watch the movie about once every two years, and I almost always have to fast-forward through that whole elevator scene. To me, it's much more disturbing than the shower scene from "Psycho".
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 06:50 AM)
I almost always have to fast-forward through that whole elevator scene. To me, it's much more disturbing than the shower scene from "Psycho".
Well it is more graphic and squeamish for a start, and as excellent as Leigh is in Psycho, she is not as likeable a character as Dickinson is in DTK. The film is more detached from the audience, like we are the voyeurs. There appears more self-control with the performance that Leigh gave and it's not as relatable or natural.
Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests.