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People are trying to suggest that certain images look NAZI.

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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back


    vandilion — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 02:39 AM)

    I've read a few idiotic posts trying to compare the storm troopers to "White Power"troopers. Because only until recently did a black guy pop out of one of those uniforms. Which history shows it should've been a bobaphet clone. Technically, they all are. And also Nazis baised what? This is now owned by Disney. So yeah. Never had any Nazi cymbolizum. Never has had anything other than the Force.

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      Captain_Wesker — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 03:14 AM)

      cymbolizum
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      It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
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        GreatWhiteApeofBarsoom — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 05:28 AM)

        From what I could understand of you post, you seem to be saying people equate the Empi with Nazism because of the white stormtrooper uniforms.
        I don't think Lucas was consciously directly going for having the Empire be analogous to the Nazis because the Empire is a more generic totalitarian state. Think Stalin's Soviet Union or Mao's China. I'm sure the Nazis played a part in the inspiration for the Empire, but there being no overt identifiers linking the Empire to Hitler's regime, I tend to consider it a stretch to say Lucas meant the Empire to be the franchise's equivalent of Nazi Germany.
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          Kruleworld — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 12:29 AM)

          no overt identifiers linking the Empire to Hitler's regime
          that's more a 'first order' thing (red and black banners, Hux's speech)
          http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/16/19/2F6DC9BA00000578-3362851-Certain_scenes_in_the_new_movie_could_be_seen_to_draw_an_influen-m-7_1450292402342.jpg
          vs
          http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/16/19/2F6DBBB700000578-3362851-One_of_the_scenes_in_the_movie_appears_very_similar_to_Leni_Rief-m-8_1450292415470.jpg
          "He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"

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            Captain_Wesker — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 11:45 AM)

            StormtroopersSturmtruppen.
            It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
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              wdement — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:51 AM)

              The empire was definitely supposed to have Nazi allusions. The officers wore clothes with resemblance to the German SS and the name storm trooper is directly lifted from the name of the German fighting force in WWII. This doesn't mean they are actually supposed to be racist, it just means George Lucas thought making the bad guys look like Nazis would be cool. Also, the storm troopers from the original trilogy are not Jango Fett clones, the empire stopped making them after Revenge of the Sith and started recruiting/enslaving real people to be storm troopers.

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                teelittle369 — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 06:56 PM)

                I showed PM to my students in China and the first thing they asked was were the ST's Nazis

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                  teelittle369 — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 06:59 PM)

                  Can I ask the OP why would you take such lengths to spell symbolism incorrectly instead of just looking it up?

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                    vmacek@mindspring.com — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 06:19 PM)

                    Nazi imagery in the Empire?
                    No sith, Sherlock!

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                      Conan-1982 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 03:22 AM)

                      "cymbolizum"
                      This says it all.

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                        preachcaleb — 4 years ago(February 09, 2022 09:55 PM)

                        "cymbolizum"
                        This says it all.
                        Maybe it's a new element like unobtainium.
                        So many stories, so little time.

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                          Karl Aksel — 5 years ago(August 01, 2020 09:14 PM)

                          Stormtroopers are not clonetroopers. According to canon, when stormtroopers took over for the clonetroopers, they were first recruited from among the clones - but thenceforth simply recruited from the Galactic (human) populuation.
                          And even if the First Order stormtroopers are clones (is there anything to suggest this?), that does not mean that they come from the same clone template as the original clonetroopers decades back.

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