Inherently Gay…
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TheFatDruidofNacyl — 15 years ago(June 22, 2010 03:17 AM)
Usually when someone finds a movie have Gay undertones where the plot is not designed to be gay, that person is trying to deal with his own sexual identity. Perhaps you want this movie to be gay.
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TheSolarSailor — 15 years ago(August 02, 2010 07:51 AM)
I hate to sound disrespectful, but what the hellyou're father sounds like an old prude. Yes, Flash Gordon is a strange movie that has tons of sexual undertones in it, but he shouldn't have acted all weird to you over it. I grew up on the film and still enjoy it today.
Anyhow, yes, I can see where some folks would see homosexuality in the film here and there. I mean, the Hawkmen in their leather gear alone (and Sam Jones in his leather hot pants) had a very gay vibe to it. Oh well, it's all a part of the charm. The garish colors and the blatant jock straps that Ming's goofy looking soldiers wear (a nod to football, but also could be seen as queer) lends itself to the stereotypical world of the gay community in many folks' minds. I mean, look no further than Joel Schumacher, and openly gay director who stuffed his two Batman movies with the exact same thingsrubber nipples and codpieces, giant nude male statues, scantily clad men painted in gold and glitter, being "partners", a big phallic Batmobile, etc., etc. But Joel also populated his film with super sexy women including Nicole Kidman, Elle McPherson, Uma Thurman, and Alicia Silverstone (well, not so much in her case, LOL!). Elements of gay or not, Flash Gordon is unlike anything else!
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Banjo_oz — 15 years ago(August 04, 2010 12:26 AM)
I still honestly don't see how people get "gay" from this movie. Seriously! I see "cheesy" and "silly" and "garish" but "gay"?! Is this a frequent accusation made against the film (even lovingly)? If anything, I find it overtly sensual in a "straight but kinky" way, what with Aura being whipped onscreen, hints of her relationship with Ming, seducing Flash and getting turned on watching Aboreans die, Dale being forced to "dance" for Ming, Klytus lusting after Aura, etc. We didn't get Barin lusting after Flash, or Vultan having orgies with his all-male Hawkmen, but we do have a catfight on a bed between the two female leads.
Maybe just because I'm not wired "that way" I don't see it, but I really don't.
Also, Batman's "that's kinda gay" surely comes from the hilariously camp 60's series which really (again) for me ALSO doesn't scream "gay" apart from having two guys as rather close "partners" wearing tights. Then again, Schumaker's Batman films are (IMO) utter trash. -
TheSolarSailor — 15 years ago(August 04, 2010 09:24 PM)
Like I said, the garish aspect lends itself to the stereotypical world of the gay community in many folks' minds. I can see exactly why people would see it, and they don't have to be wired that way to see it. People associate this stuff with the gay community, but it really is more a stereotype than anything. It's the truth, or else this discussion wouldn't be taking place.
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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Banjo_oz — 15 years ago(August 05, 2010 09:01 AM)
Fair enough, I guess. Personally, I just associate that kind of garishness with the 70's and 80's, myself!
Maybe, as you said, it's more a stereotype and perhaps somewhat a cultural thing, too (I'm an Aussie, and I've heard Flash was much less well received in the US than here and the UK, for instance).
Joel's Batman movies? Okay, yeah, I can see that (I mean, what IS Jim Carey wearing?!). But not Flash Gordon, at least until reading this thread. At worst it feels like a cheesy, bad roller disco.
Incidentally (to show I'm not just blinkered!
), my idea of "gee, that's kinda gay" is the 2009+ reboot of Doctor Who, in terms of getting that "vibe" you're talking about without actually being told anything and later learning the showrunner was in fact gay. -
zyggums — 14 years ago(March 10, 2012 07:56 AM)
it is
there is flash gorden element in rockey horror picture show, etc. Clytus is frankenfurter right?
it totaly is.
if you can't see it thats fine but if you can see it, its really there.
if you don't belive me:
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TheFatDruidofNacyl — 15 years ago(August 07, 2010 04:18 AM)
As far as Batman and Robin go, They was simply two people, an older brother and younger brother, or later maybe father and son fighting team. But if you let your imagination run away with you, then you have a middle aged man that keeps to himself, not only picks a teenage boy to train and fight with him, but also live alone with him in a big house. Alfred was there but what happens in the Batcave, stays in the Batcave..j/k Also Robin had some bright colored tights.
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TheSolarSailor — 15 years ago(August 07, 2010 01:02 PM)
Your post is accurate for Batman and Robin in general, as proven during the 50s comic book crusade where they sought to prove that the superhero team was really promoting a homosexual lifestyle. But the 1997 Joel Schumacher film is filled with homosexual undertones and gay imagery, and that is really not up for debate.
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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tenement-funster — 14 years ago(March 03, 2012 12:32 PM)
We didn't get Barin lusting after Flash
Oh, I don't know. They did have that whip fight, after which Barin swore himself into Flash's service. And how the hell did Flash get so good with a whip anyway?!
On a more serious note, camp is definitely the word to use rather than gay. It's a good fun film. I'm still patiently waiting for the sequel!
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OneWayFilms2000 — 13 years ago(April 03, 2012 09:20 PM)
I was about to defend this film by laughing at the gay accusation.until I suddenly remembered the shape of Zarkoff's space rocket. Even at 10 years-old, I always thought it looked like a giant penis flying through space.
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Riding46 — 14 years ago(February 22, 2012 02:24 AM)
Wellthat was a shock to read that! But hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the film (that way), no worse that me wanting to see Dale and Aura in a cat fight. I guess if you are that way inclined those were the two to pick and not Dr Zarkoff and the Brian Blessed character.
