Animals harmed
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Heaven's Gate
emma391 — 20 years ago(April 27, 2005 07:23 PM)
according to a reputable source "on the set of the mega-flop Heaven's Gatewhere the production crew apparently decapitated chickens, held cockfights, and blew up a horsewhich prompted industry groups to strike a deal with the AHA"
"BLEW UP A HORSE"
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TheGiantPaperPanda — 20 years ago(April 28, 2005 07:30 AM)
I saw that too. I was so shocked I mean how could these people not get arrested. I mean not that I agree with the chickens being decapitated but that happenes every day at poultry farms. But blowing up a horse for entertainment is just egregious.
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clunkygirl — 12 years ago(April 25, 2013 12:15 PM)
Foster1234: (and probably others who wrote about their disbelief)
Actually, you are wrong. The American Humane Society picketed screenings as well as movie-goers, it was no secret that animals were harmed for entertainment (not food either). A cow was killed and disemboweled, horses were bled from the neck, an accident produced the blowing up of rider and horse (rider did survive), decapitation of a chicken, and actual cockfights. It was a menagerie of senseless mistreatment and disregard for other living things. Calling people names that care about the welfare of humans and other animals, particularly when it is you who do not have your facts straight, only makes you look like the ass that you claim others to be.
And by the way, empathy, kindness, the development of ethics are a result of civilization and are hallmarks of a society that is worth living in and striving toward - it's not something to laugh about, the opposite is a hopeless waste of our ability to think. -
benmasta — 12 years ago(March 22, 2014 11:08 AM)
hahahahahaha oh man i love people who flip out about animal abuse.
i think its an awful thing too, but i swear those that bitch about it the most, are the ones who do the least about it! They always act like they are doing their part by judging others who arent super sensitive about any little animal thing that happens -
adam89er2003 — 20 years ago(May 15, 2005 04:03 PM)
I'm sorry to say that it is true. Actually, this movie is the reason that the AHA monitors animal action. They killed a ridiculous number of animals for this movie. If you see a horse fall over in this film, you probably just saw it's death, and a LOT of horses fall over in this film. I've seen horses fall and flip over in recent films, also. But in those films, they faked it without hurting any animals. I can't even tell the difference between faking it and killing horses with trip wires. It is a horrible waste of life.
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steviez33 — 20 years ago(March 22, 2006 08:22 AM)
"Actually, this movie is the reason that the AHA monitors animal action."
WRONG!!!
You haven't seen the disclaimer on films made before that 1980 mess? Try getting your facts straight before quoting them as gospel. The reason that the AHA came in and started monitoring films is the 1939 version of "Jesse James". http://www.imdb.com/board/10031507/trivia is your link. Crap Son, you'll probably be claiming that the cow accident scene from "O Brother, Where Art Thou" is real and that's why all the cows talk to you and demand that YOU protect them! It's pedantic idiots like you that make me lose faith in humanity. -
movelab — 20 years ago(March 31, 2006 07:24 PM)
stevie wonder, are you blind. EVERYONE knows about the endless chaotic scenes were extras and cast members were injured and some died. you find it hard to believe that horses escaped injury? trip wires WERE used to get the horses to fall. watch as the horses are slobbering and exhausted in far too many scenes.
it's all right there bub. thankfully, there'smuch stricter monotoring these days. but check movies like "gummo" where cats were beaten, hung and killed. korin wasn't even slapped with a fine. -
steviez33 — 19 years ago(April 15, 2006 09:39 AM)
I was just commenting on his comment - "Actually, this movie is the reason that the AHA monitors animal action." - which is false. I'm not claiming that animals aren't hurt or killed in particular scenes, which I do find alarming.
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krisdl — 13 years ago(November 08, 2012 11:21 PM)
@ Steviez33 Why do you take it so personally? Animals were hurt, the aha were involved, that's enough for anyone with a shred of heart to say this isn't right but you get all up in his junk about a small detail. Seems you have issues.
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Arthur_2323 — 19 years ago(December 07, 2006 10:33 PM)
Regarding horses being trip-wired, try this scene:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10080855/board/thread/30576690
. Michael Cimino denies it to this day, but there it is in full color, and you can judge for yourself. (You'll need the 220 minute version.)
BTW: It's possible that horse was actually trip-wired in
California
, instead of Montana. I can't confirm that (stumbled across it on the net by accident) and that's
only
a guess, but it would explain a lot of things. -
sailorspysedna — 11 years ago(March 03, 2015 05:43 PM)
I heard that in some biography that that horse in Jessie James actually landed on some platform, but I do not know if it is true or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_James_(1939_film)#Animal_cruelty