Waste of time
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SnoozeAlarm — 13 years ago(November 12, 2012 11:19 AM)
bstephens21 you come across as arrogant. you could make you points without the condescension
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Mustafa32 — 14 years ago(June 20, 2011 08:07 AM)
The director's cut of Heaven's Gate is, and is widely regarded as, an absolute masterpiece. It does require the audience to pay attention and use their brains, however. And if you "couldn't make out who everybody is" then maybe you should be watching it in a cinema as intended and not on a mobile phone.
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looking4ahandout — 15 years ago(June 21, 2010 07:07 AM)
I watched Heaven's Gate because of the infamous reputation. Obviously I am in the minority but I didn't think it was that bad. Not great but not deserving of the reputation it has. If it didn't lose so much money it would be viewed differently. I've seen far worse films that don't get treated like Heaven's Gate because they made money or cost little to make.
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bstephens21 — 15 years ago(December 23, 2010 12:15 AM)
If you want to cling to that opinion, its your right. I have no intention of fighting the windmills. I just want to open up the dialogue on the film to allow it the conversation it deserves.
And ultimately, I am confident that critical opinion
will
swing closer to my direction in the coming years. I'm already seeing the small rumblings of a full-scale reconsideration of the film, and considering some of the "plans" for the film in the future, I see no reason for it to lose momentum.
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okami36 — 14 years ago(August 16, 2011 02:44 AM)
I thought this movie was a lot like Caligula in many ways.
Both had an interesting person/event at the heart of the story.
Both had a ton of great actors/actresses.
Both are way too long.
Both are boring.
This could've been called "Dramatic Pause: The Movie" or "Lots of Footage of People Walking and/or Doing Very Little".
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ABetterDay — 13 years ago(March 02, 2013 04:46 PM)
Heaven's Gate is a terrible film. Actually.it's not so much a film as it is a political statement. It should not have been made. Liberalism run amok.
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mordloldad — 13 years ago(March 03, 2013 01:14 PM)
I would say it's a failed political statement. Cimino wanted to turn the Western genre upside down and show the "real" west. Instead he created a black-and-white tale that dealt in absolutes just about as much as any Western that came before it. Sam Waterson's character is the Darth Vader of the western. He is literally a mustache twirling villain (although, his mustache is one of the most impressive things about this movie) and he looks like a Stalinist general in the Red Army. The mercenaries involved with the actual Johnson County War weren't out to massacre poor immigrants (in actuality there weren't many impoverished European immigrants in Wyoming), they actually set their sights on some affluent targets. I don't mind that Cimino took liberties with history necessarily as plenty of great films have done so (Amadeus immediately comes to mind) but if you're claiming to "demystify" the west, creating your own mythological west isn't the best way to go about it. In the end Cimino did turn the Western genre upside down, with Heaven's Gate's failure big studios were afraid to touch many Western projects.