Use of the N-word
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kmags84 — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 11:15 PM)
I love Scorsese and Tarantino on these topics. Both are Democrats, Very Much Liberal Men who have nothing but support for Civil Rights etc
But Both give Giant Eff Yous to the Political Correct Crybabies. Kubrick CHOSE that word carefully (I don't have to explain that to you lol), it was geared to get attention. As their conversation slowly shifts balance, good old Jeevesy drops a really hard bomb and his look is one for the ages. -
christomacin — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 08:55 AM)
Why was a black man taken out with an axe? And why standing over an American Indian symbol?
Then he tried to take out Wendy as well. What did John and Yoko say?
I love the clueless millenials going into epileptic fits over this song"I didn't know John Lennon was racist!" The word is racist unless you're a rapperthen it isn't. -
joekiddlouischama — 9 years ago(October 27, 2016 11:21 PM)
It's not fun to face the facts, is it?
Kubrick shocked us with blatant, unexpected dialogue, and it was way past time.
Why do so many people find the film difficult to grasp?
Hearing "n***er" and other racial epithets in movies was not unique for films made in the late 1970s.
The language was (unfortunately) historically appropriate for white men trying to relive their glory days of the 1920s, a time when (lest we forget) the Ku Klux Klan enjoyed a huge national revival and emerged in Colorado in a major way.
https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/when-kkk-ruled-colorado-not-so-long-ago
(Of course, the use of that slur was hardly limited to KKK members and there is no indication that Grady or Jack were members of the KKK, but I am just reflecting the broader historical context.)
So the choice was a correct one, but I do not feel that it reflected Kubrick constituting some radical iconoclast (in this case) or that it would have been that shocking thirty-six years ago.
Why was a black man taken out with an axe?
because he was about to reveal the madness of Jack and the hotel. Count me as one of the viewers who does not perceive
The Shining
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andreaaa_3000 — 10 years ago(January 17, 2016 06:16 AM)
No it wasn't necessary. That's why you can't offer a proper defense for it. Just another white fool desperate to justify their racism. Sounding like broken records at this point.
They literally discussed the black man for two lines.
Use of the n word added nothing of importance to it. Just the typical white director wanting to insert some racism into a perfectly incredible psychological thrilling horror movie. You mean in a film that was 2+ hours long, the n word was intricate to the already intense plot and the film would have been ruined without it? Haha. Lies. -
frany1125 — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 11:39 AM)
Well if he said colored or negro I would understand why. I don't know why people are bashing me and calling me PC after just asking a simple question
If it were any other derogatory term that seemed out of context I would ask the same question as well. I just did not deem it as necessary. Maybe if they were in the 1800's I wouldn't question as much
I know racism was alive in the 1920's that the character was from, I just didn't expect the N-word usage in that context
Just having a discussion is all
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Barbed_Wire_Strawberry — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 01:39 PM)
You PC Bra?
Seriously though - the actual point is to show the inherent racism of the institution of the Overlook.
Without anyone to inflate his ego, Jack isn't really feeling like much of a White Man.
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eweland — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 07:50 AM)
No it wasn't necessary. That's why you can't offer a proper defense for it. Just another white fool desperate to justify their racism. Sounding like broken records at this point.
They literally discussed the black man for two lines.
Use of the N-word added nothing of importance to it. Just the typical white director wanting to insert some racism into a perfectly incredible psychological thrilling horror movie. You mean in a film that was 2+ hours long, the n word was intricate to the already intense plot and the film would have been ruined without it? Haha. Lies.
You really don't understand this film at all, do you?
Thanks for proving it.
Haha. Truth.
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Kubrick's film -
will always be the definitive version of
THE SHiNiNG
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