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tim-r-kramer — 13 years ago(October 29, 2012 10:49 AM)
I think when I was younger, I was able to ignore many of the flaws associated with Superman II. Today, I certainly see them. There are a lot of inconsistencies, implausible plot sequences, and use of stupid comedy. Still, I feel that the Metropolis battle was spectacular considering the time this was filmed. Lester's inclusion of some really out of place "comedy" during the battle was unfortunate, but otherwise, I thought that this sequence was the highlight of the four Reeve films. Clearly, had Donner been able to finish Superman II, a more cohesive film would have resulted. While the theatrical version of Superman II is far from perfect, I don't know how it can be called "awful."
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TheSolarSailor — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 07:52 AM)
obvious troll is obvious
why people are feeding you is curiousThen why didn't you let the 4 month dormancy of this thread stay in tact? Why did you bump it when it died way back in February? I mean, come now!
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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Gunslinger1919 — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 09:09 PM)
Maybe the OP is trolling, but that doesn't mean he isn't right. This movie is terrible. The acting is terrible. By everyone. The characters make incomprehensible decisions throughout. Why does Superman decide to take away his powers? Why does Lois let him? She loves Superman, not Clark. The bad guys are hokey. Superman for some reason gets new and stupid powers. Superman is apparently an idiot who forgets he got rid of his powers, gets in a fight, and is surprised when he gets hurt. Superman gets his powers back with no explanation. All this leads to: the plot is bad.
And notice I didn't mention the effects? That's the least of this movie's problems.
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siukong — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 01:45 PM)
I have to agree 100%. Even completely disregarding the effects (which I would call dated, but fine for late-70s/early-80s), this movie is filled with problems. I'm hard-pressed to recall a movie more riddled with "incomprehensible decisions" and other plotholes. From conversations on the moon to hurricane breath that can toss cars around but barely affects the guy licking his ice cream cone to the more serious cases like a fully human Superman traversing the tundra twice in just a dress shirt and slacks there are so many, I honestly wouldn't even know where to start, and would probably get too frustrated before coming anywhere near finishing.
We have not one, but two status-quo resets that destroy much of what little plot/character development we are shown: the reversal of the "if you make this decision, it's FOREVER" loss of powers, and the amnesia kiss. (I'm glad I didn't watch I and II at the same time - the trifecta of those two plus the spin the world backwards to turn back time bit would likely have been too much for me).
Bad writing, inconsistent line delivery, unfunny comedic bits. All in all, it just seems very sloppy and slapped together. And don't even get me started on the most blatant, distracting product placement that I've seen since Transformers and I, Robot. -
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Darthmauler_megaa — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 06:56 AM)
Very few people say they're awful. People who do are just more vocal because they're annoyed people enjoy something they don't understand.
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franzkabuki — 10 years ago(November 08, 2015 06:44 AM)
Sure it's cheesy and broad as customary for this type of film, but it never crosses the line to outright idiocy. It's also quite entertaining and adventurous with some nice scenery and stuff. Liked it much better than the Star Wars follow-up from the same year.
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