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Lilith — 6 years ago(May 13, 2019 10:44 PM)
Yes, I agree. She was all about femininity and part of that in society is often associated with having children. What better way? It enhanced her image, and furthered her career and popularity.
That was an exceptional line that was delivered, wasn't it? Joan's fans were devoted and worshipped her, which was all she ever wanted. It was ALL she wanted. She did everything for her fans, at the expense of many and much.
I know when Christina came out with her book and did some talk shows, Joan's fans were outraged. No one will ever know all the details, but fans cannot separate the characters (especially Mildred Pierce) from the individuals playing them. They felt Christina was tarnishing Joan's memory, regardless of how this was a book FOR CHRISTINA, not FOR Joan.
People don't like to see their idols fall.
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MissMargoChanning — 6 years ago(May 13, 2019 11:06 PM)
I always believed that Christina was telling the truth as she saw it. I have no doubt that much of what she described actually happened. When the "twins" came out and said that none of it was true, I was a bit surprised, but those two were much younger that Christina and Christopher. Things were most likely different over time. Perhaps things had mellowed. Perhaps Joan had gotten a handle on things and lightened up a bit. I don't believe that the two younger girls could possibly know or understand just what happened with the two older children. How could they? They had different childhoods.
Just an example: I'm the youngest in my family. I have/had four older siblings and 9 older step siblings. At one point there were 2 of us girls living at home. The older girls would come and visit. One time my stepmother had me up on a stool pinning a hem on a skirt for me. i was around 16. One of the older girls walked in the house. She was shocked at just how short that hemline was. She said that she was never allowed to wear such short skirts at 16. My stepmother just laughed and said, "You had another childhood! This one (she was pointing at me) is the last one. I'm done fighting over hemlines."
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Lilith — 6 years ago(May 13, 2019 11:11 PM)
Christina defended her younger siblings in many interviews, citing the exact same thing. Even she said that she believed by the time the younger girls came along, their experience with Joan was extremely different.
Times were different. The ages were different. Joan was different. I've no doubt one bit that she treated them different, and my gut tells me the younger sisters probably did have a much happier relationship with Joan, but that in no way invalidates whatever Christina and Christopher experienced while they were growing up.
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Lilith — 6 years ago(May 14, 2019 12:06 AM)
I am not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly, but it's also possible that Joan poisoned them both against Christina and Christopher. Add that into their experiences being so vastly different, logic goes out the window and emotions take over. They no doubt feel protective and defensive because their own experiences were so vastly different.
To the twins, they may have only seen Joan as this mega-power Hollywood glamour star, and if they were treated really well, they probably couldn't comprehend that Christina and Christopher could have possibly had any different experience. I don't think it was ill intentioned, and I think the twins are/were sincere, but it's hard to accept another viewpoint when your own experience is so different.
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MissMargoChanning — 6 years ago(May 14, 2019 12:44 AM)
I have no doubt that all of that is true. The whole situation is pretty sad when all is said and done.
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— 6 years ago(May 13, 2019 05:40 AM)THE MAKERS OF "MOTHERS DAY" WISH THEY HADNT F@#KED UP SO BAD.
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Lilith — 6 years ago(May 14, 2019 01:08 AM)
Was this the one…..you know, THAT one?
She was under the bed? She had sex with her sons? She was missing limbs? She was in the trunk? She didn't "want to be 'rescued'"?
If I'm not mistaken, this episode was so disturbing that it even got pulled from the air almost immediately and banned in many places.
Is that the episode to which you refer?
"Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith
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