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InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 02:40 AM)
'actresses start losing work when they hit 40.'
Not on TV. Why is TV always dismissed or not considered? I don't get it. Most roles in Tv films seem to go to women. And TV films don't cast lightly, to anyone who comes along. There is very stiff competition when casting them, and most go to a certain circle of established actresses. But you never stop hearing it: "women over 40, women over 50". Men over 50 don't book as many feature films either.
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jefgg — 10 years ago(August 14, 2015 04:40 PM)
My bro thinks "Mommie Dearest" ruined Faye Dunaway's career. He thinks a movie star can play a heel once in a while but not a monster.
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LetThemEatCake01 — 10 years ago(October 01, 2015 09:39 PM)
That is the myth yes, that Mommie Dearest somehow ruined her career, but having done research into it, I don't think so. The movie was NOT a failure, it made no loss whatsoever, in fact it was a bit of a hit so it can't be credited with ruining her box office clout. I think the problem is that she quit Hollywood. I don't know how career oriented Faye Dunaway really is, it seems she's more a consummate artist than career obsessed but after Mommie Dearest she moved to London and stayed there almost 10 years, and THAT ruined her career. Then she came back and decided to star in the most horrific films ever made, films that made her look ugly and that were ugly like the handmaid's tale, barfly, and all the other crap she does now. It's shocking. I don't blame Mommie Dearest.
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LoneWolfAttack — 10 years ago(December 20, 2015 11:26 AM)
It was Faye's biggest box office hit in the '80s. How does a big moneymaker ruin one's career? Do you understand how business works? If anything ruined her career, it was "The Wicked Lady" and the multiple flops she followed that up with - all of which, coincidentally, branded her box office poison. If anything else beyond consistent failure ruined her career, it was her horrible diva antics on every set. People will put up with personalities like hers until the point where they stop making them money, and then after that point they won't anymore.
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InherentlyYours — 10 years ago(February 29, 2016 09:36 PM)
'It was Faye's biggest box office hit in the '80s. How does a big moneymaker ruin one's career? Do you understand how business works?'
I know what you mean, but tell that to Patty Duke who starred in the second-biggest grossing film of 1967, yet the critical pan was the issue (detracting credibility as an actress) That's how business works- do you understand? -
rascal67 — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 01:49 AM)
I know what you mean, but tell that to Patty Duke who starred in the second-biggest grossing film of 1967, yet the critical pan was the issue
Duke starred in an ensemble and was not a lead carrying the picture like Dunaway was. Both films got critically panned yet made money, and both are now cult classics. How their careers panned out, have nothing to do with these films. They deservedly have their following for attempting to be serious and sincere, yet only ended up being polished cheesy 'B' graders. Even if that wasn't the intention, the entertainment value and notoriety is still there.
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TMC-4 — 9 years ago(April 24, 2016 12:14 AM)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000007/thread/256401222
A hilarious film about child abuse comes across as an oxymoron until you see it and realize why. Because the film is steeped in kitsch and dialogue which could only come from someone who takes human emotion from the outrageous, you get a film which is too risible to be taken seriously and Faye Dunaway is the prime ingredient:
overacts, chews every piece of scenery she can find
including wire hangers, cleaning powder and a ax yet you can't take your eyes away from her, she gives a performance which is as brilliant as it is awful and you never get tired of it. -
InherentlyYours — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 02:07 AM)
'yet you can't take your eyes away from her, she gives a performance which is as brilliant as it is awful and you never get tired of it.'
That is exactly the reverence for Patty Duke in Valley of the Dolls, being the lead, though billed second since the story is Parkins' character point of view. I can see them excising Parkins' dreary scenes to insert more of Duke (but her career only died due to box office for her next two films) That is why VOTD looks lopsided; the top-billed is not the lead.
Faye/Patty are both burning with this raw powerful rage in these films, but it's not tempered.
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I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 08:12 AM)
I don't know if it ruined her career so much as it changed it forever. In my opinion, Faye Dunaway - never my favorite actress - gave one one of the boldest, bravest performances I have ever seen as crazy bitch el supremo, Joan Crawford. Dunaway completely exposed herself and I think her performance elicits a degree of discomfort in a lot of viewers. She allowed herself to be completely vulnerable and unfortunately many viewers couldn't resist engaging the flip side of that particular coin. That's too bad because I find her vice grip performance fascinating.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 11:52 PM)
Faye Dunaway - never my favorite actress - gave one one of the boldest, bravest performances I have ever seenDunaway completely exposed herselfShe allowed herself to be completely vulnerableI find her vice grip performance fascinating.
I will have to view this film again Mr. H, as I always enjoy your endorsements. From past viewings, which were sometime ago, and after reading the book twice, I was quite mortified at how the film turned out. In my mind, I see Dunaway acting like Crawford has just walked of the set of 'Straight-Jacket'-64', however I could be exaggerating this because of my dislike of the film.
Have you seen NETWORK-76, in which Dunaway won her Oscar? She is an ambitious, cold queen b!tch in this one too and she is very very good. It is also a classy performance and she also shows a vulnerable side, even though she can hardly let go of her obsession for ratings for one moment. Her work just consumes her and is what makes her tick. The film has a heightend script and is a smart and clever satire. I also think I prefer Dunaway in THE WICKED LADY-83' over MD, and I always thoroughly enjoy upon repeated viewings. This one didn't intend to be anything other than what it was and has no pretense about it. It's raunchy in parts, blended with some interesting violence, and she is just very conniving and wicked. She does it well. Alan Bates is an asset also. A winner, from hack director Michael Winner.
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I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(May 03, 2016 07:27 AM)
Have you seen NETWORK-76, in which Dunaway won her Oscar? She is an ambitious. cold queen b!tch in this one, too, and she is very good.
I have seen it. And I liked her performance in it very much. She has been good at playing cold bitches, and in this movie, she gets the opportunity to relish the character's bitchiness. Diana Christensen is one greedy woman!!! There are a few scenes in particular that I find her especially enjoyable. I love the scene near the beginning of the movie where she's going over things with her staff (I think Cathryn Manheim is in the scene) and near the end of scene she says sonething to the effect of "oh, and by the way, if any of you ever do this again, I'll sack the expletive lot of you." She is so matter of fact about it, but it's clear she means business! It's a funny scene. Also, when she comes into work early in the morning and she snatches a newspaper on her way in and sees the ratings. And when realizes that Howard Beale is a huge success. I may be melding some of the scenes, but basically I find her very entertaining whenever she gets excited and all that nervous energy just spills out.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(May 03, 2016 02:36 PM)
Sidney Lumet was in top form here in the mid 70's, what with Dog Day Afternoon the previous year and then Network the following. Much of the success of these films and the quality is also due to him. I wonder if he would have made a better film, if he had done Mommie Dearest.
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I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(May 04, 2016 06:02 AM)
I like "Serpico", Rascal. It was pretty intense with an exciting plot and a real feeling for early 70s urban life. And it is my 2nd favorite Al Pacino performance. He is so freakin' cute at the beginning of the movie! (sans beard)
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(May 04, 2016 02:11 PM)
I attempted to watch Prince Of The City-81' once and lost interest in it, so then gave Serpico a miss, also being by Lumet and about corrupt cops. I should check it out.
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shopguyperry — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 07:26 AM)
Faye made an awful mistake. She should have bowed out of the project ahead of time, which is what Anne Bancroft did. This film has truly cursed Dunaway's career and to the extent that one might think karma was involved. Bancroft was at least perceptive enough to disengage from the whole project but Dunaway couldn't figure out the deeper nuances of her decision ahead of time, and she ultimately paid the price for her shallowness.