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    preppy-3 — 17 years ago(February 26, 2009 05:05 AM)

    OKgood points but don't u think the workers would know why O'Neil was being killed? You're rightthey may not have any idea of what the drugs cause but I think it's mentioned that there were more than a few deaths happening with people going crazy (I think they said in the movie there were 95 in one year). I think somebody might have figured it outbut then again (as u said) people need the money and don't want to get involved. So that makes sense but I'm like O'Neil. If I saw something like this I would go out of my way to see it stopped.

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        preppy-3 — 17 years ago(February 28, 2009 08:54 AM)

        OKI can see all your points and agree.
        I had forgotten that when the killers came to get him that wonderful woman doctor helped himbut she had no family and made it clear she was leaving before the s**t hit the fan. Also the killers were pretty stupid for professionalsespecially the one in the greenhouse shooting at the plastic wall. I mean come ON!

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            preppy-3 — 17 years ago(February 28, 2009 09:34 AM)

            LOL True. After all this is little more than "High Noon" in outer space.
            Despite what I've been "saying" I DO like the movie. It's just some of the events are a little hard to swallow. As it was it didn't do too well at the box office.

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              Movie_map — 17 years ago(March 16, 2009 02:23 PM)

              I just watched this movie again for the first time in years. It's a very underrated movie. Re the drug, presumably the company knows that the workers will begin having adverse reactions about 10 or 11 months into their 12 month tour. If that's the case then why not shorten the tour to 6 or 8 months?

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                paul-freegard1 — 17 years ago(March 30, 2009 05:47 AM)

                Like drug users care about their health. Smoking causes cancer, yet people smoke. Prolonged cannabis use causes psychosis, yet users tell you it's harmless. They don't give a s**t 'cos they only think about the short-term gain. Besides, the pushers aren't likely to provide you with a health warning.

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                  proteus122 — 14 years ago(May 15, 2011 07:45 PM)

                  Not to mention alcohol. We have a certain amount of tolerance built in but if you abuse alcohol for long enough there are grave consequences.
                  Still, I've got to say: I watched the movie again the other day and it's held up very well considering when it was made.

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                    Angry_Afghan — 14 years ago(June 13, 2011 10:06 AM)

                    Prolonged cannabis use causes psychosis
                    That has yet to be proven, there is merely a correlation between the two. I also remember reading that in order to prevent just one case of cannabis-induced psychosis (if the two are in fact related) one would need to prevent 25,000 people from ever using it. In other words, most users will say it is harmless because for the vast majority it is just that.

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                        tricksoftrade01 — 14 years ago(June 23, 2011 05:22 PM)

                        Fatty foods take 30 some odd years of eating to clog up arteries.Just like smoking.the extended time frame of future death (30 plus years) lets people engage in risky behaviour.
                        The risky behaviour in this case leads to insanity/death in less then 1 year. A time frame that will stop most people from using the drug.

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                          scott-1441 — 17 years ago(March 28, 2009 03:02 AM)

                          I thought of another plot hole with regards to economics:
                          I think the increased insurance and medical care costs to the corporation for the dead and freaked out employees would outweigh any profit gains in productivity. For a real world example, the cost of a U.S. automobile includes more for the healthcare of the employees than for the raw materials themselves. How much more would that auto cost if every six months 100 workers died on the line?
                          (Granted, you could hypothesize a future where the corporation doesn't have to pay for the insurance of their employees. However, that doesn't seem to be the trend - yet.)

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                            Killswitch_6 — 17 years ago(April 02, 2009 02:40 AM)

                            No secrets stay buried forever. Eventually, as the number of deaths and psychotic episodes increased, rumors would spread among the workers. And workers that were strong enough to finish their tours would most likely have health problems afterward. This would lead to hospital examinations back home, and then it wouldn't be long before doctors identified the drug as the cause of those health problems.
                            The company in this movie is ruthless, no doubt. But if they were really that smart, they would've changed the length of the tour (and thus, the length of the drug use) to only 8 or 9 months. That way, the workers would leave before any real problems began showing up. Who knows, maybe the workers wouldn't have any long term problems if their tours were kept that short. It's still extremely unethical, but it's better than psychotic episodes and death.

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                              tricksoftrade01 — 14 years ago(May 18, 2011 03:08 PM)

                              Coming back to this subject, it would only be a matter of time before the word got out.
                              The company's decision makers are very short sighted, because they would eventually face prison time when the sh** hit the fan.
                              It would probably start in one of two ways;
                              Grieving family members would eventually demand a autopsy to be done, esp if their was strange behaviour before the death. In any case hire a lawer.
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                              A upper management member would have pangs of conscience and/or fear of prison and tip a powerful law firm.
                              Hungry lawers would hear about the deaths and swarm a profit bloated behemoth company like this one, asking why an autopsy was not done, blaming the company for not noticing erratic behaviour beforehand (which would be verified by other workers), and eventually acquire damning testimnony and perhaps physcial evidence of the drug. The company would have to go to the 'plausible deniablity' defense, which would probably not hold water. The family members would reap millions in a successful lawsuit and the owners/station managers would face some serious prison time.
                              For all the jokes about lawers, this would be a case where they would come in useful. All Connery's character really had to do would be send a secret messege to some powerful law firm and sit back and collect a 'finders fee'.
                              But hey you would not have a good movie then.

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                                  Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(January 13, 2014 01:13 PM)

                                  Lol, oh yeah, addicts definitely shun drugs when the effects are worse and worse. Happens all the time.
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                                    tad-32 — 11 years ago(January 17, 2015 09:05 PM)

                                    Not to mention that it was killing about 25 per month out of a total 1250 miners.
                                    So during a miner's one year tour, the odds were that there was a 25% chance you wouldn't make it to the end of your tour before ending up dead.
                                    I don't see that as a great selling point for a job. The place would turn into a ghost town.

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                                          samhmd-7489 — 10 years ago(October 12, 2015 05:31 PM)

                                          Frankly, once the casualties kept piling up the most economic thing for the Company to do would be to just stop the drug shipments. It can't be cheap to train these guys and ship them off to Outer Space and then have to keep training replacements because they keep killing themselves.
                                          Eventually, someone would think "The profits we're making aren't offsetting the money we're losing from having to keep hiring people, shipping them out and paying insurance money to the families of the dead ones."

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