Avoid this movie
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jaynmo — 21 years ago(January 30, 2005 03:56 PM)
Is a deep dense movie, scary in the sense that they were on the edge making it, if you dont get it or dont like the story, but you like acting and performances, is a true delight to watch the efforts of the actors balancing on a very thin line, the subway scene of Adjani is scary and breathtaking for the same reason, you keep holding your breath expecting her to pull it off, and SHE DOES.
Is all metaphors about spoiled relationships and self destruction, you can almost see it clearly in the disturbing scene in which Adjani moans and begs wimping before a crucifix in a church, not a single word uttered, just moaning, you know then she knows her life is falling apart, and is begging for help. -
evilrotting — 19 years ago(November 28, 2006 11:35 PM)
i would agree that this is not a traditional horror movie.
i would add to what you say and call it an "avante garde horror-flick", more experimental than anything else. what makes it stand out is the acting of adjani which is mindblowingly disturbing. the problem with the movie is that it lacks layers, its almost always the same except for the sex monster which is gross. its definitely freaky and its got some unforgettable moments but i dont think its the type of film a lot of people can enjoy. that said, it's much better than most stuff these days and at least it has some scary scenes and like i said, great performance by isabelle adjani. -
eccs2003 — 20 years ago(August 01, 2005 10:46 PM)
I have heard a lot about the creature in the movie having some connection with the devilit hasntthe movie is not about the devil at all.
In my point of view,this movie is about the children of a failing marriage.the kid is the only victim in the whole story,he didnt ask to born.hes in the middle of the insanity of his parents.
the end of the movie talks about this..(Spoiler)when the creature,that has become sam Neill is going to meet the girl,who is Adjani look a-likerepresents the beggining of a new relationshipthe circle of life repeating itself.and the children cant stand it.he begs:"Nodont open the doorno",what really mean:Please,dont mess around againlet me live in peaceand then he commits suicide.He represents the unborn kids that dont deserve to live in a mad house,like many houses even today,when theres no room for respect between a couple.(Spoiler ends)
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milk_is_bad_for_you — 18 years ago(December 25, 2007 11:58 AM)
I have to disagree with you about the movie having no connections with god or the devil(spoilers)
Step 1 - masturbate to the image of christ
Step 2 - get thrashed around in a tunnel posessed by something either divine or demonicnot sure yet
Step 3 - misconcieve afterwards in the same tunnel (as explained in the "faith and chance" scene/monologue)
In a way, it's the immaculate misconception, and what she nurtures/brings to life is a variation of the antichrist.
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strattford — 16 years ago(February 15, 2010 06:20 AM)
I have to disagree with you about the movie having no connections with god or the devil(spoilers)
I agree 100% with having to do with God. But unless you can define "devil" in support to your point, I don't think it have nothing to do in the movie. If I'm not wrong, they are always talking about God, but never about Devil.
Step 1 - masturbate to the image of christ
Right before this scene she said she feel like two sister fighting to exaustion and then (it's really creppy) the neartest close up on her where she don't blink, have dilated pupil and state something like "You stare at me. Look at me, etc". The very next scene there are an high statue of Jesus. He is head down, just like someone he's staring at her except that the statue don't "open the eyes" and look at her. My take is that it's a feminist idea about someone who cannot be respected, acepted or even loved, and the only way she knows to accomplish something, is by sex.
Step 2 - get thrashed around in a tunnel posessed by something either divine or demonicnot sure yet
What makes you so sure that she was "possessed by demons"? I think that she have so much suffering and despite that could lead someone to that Btw, I think that one of the movie ideas is that God and Devil are the same.
Step 3 - misconcieve afterwards in the same tunnel (as explained in the "faith and chance" scene/monologue)
I don't think that the "faith and chance" thing have any relationship with that.
In a way, it's the immaculate misconception, and what she nurtures/brings to life is a variation of the antichrist.
Well, now this one is out of hand. You have assuming thing, make connections, and put it all in a religious perspective. At least edit the "antichrist" part of your post, 'cos it's really stupid.
I am still quite baffled by the ending however.
Now I think you did get it. He talk about God twice (""God is like a disease", "God is the dead dog who" sorry, I don't remenber the exactly words but in the scene folowed to that, he is in front of the Berlin Wall, a little scary or confused, until he see a dead dog and IMO, it was like a clue to him that "beware, 'cos good is around". He said to his wife take their son and go back to USA, and he arrive a little later, when the WW3 starts.So, I think that the point is that God is bad (the "God is a disease" line).
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gurlpower07 — 19 years ago(May 17, 2006 01:56 AM)
This a classic horror-drama-thriller.
If you like your movies pigeon holed into genre boxes don't watch this, but if a want a clever thriller with touches of horror, this is a great little flick!
The acting is slightly over the top but adds to the surreal tome of the piece.
recommend you check it out!
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zombie_metal_war — 19 years ago(June 26, 2006 03:17 PM)
Hilarious thread! This isn't a movie for stupid people. It's as simple as that. If you're able to analyze films, and have the intellectual capacity to understand what a director is presenting beyond what is spelled out for you through dialogue, this movie is for you. If you don't know what the word allegory means, you've never read a book that was published before the 1980's, and don't think that a movie can say anything beyond the words that are spoken by the characters, find a Leperchaun movie and watch that one. You're who they were made for after all, and they won't confuse or bore you.
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metaspheres — 19 years ago(July 20, 2006 04:51 AM)
I strongly disagree. Just because someone hates this movie doesn't make them stupid. You will find no shortage of intellectual heavyweights who absolutely despise this film and who will never go near it again even though they have only seen it once.
The film should definitely have a warning because it is probably the most visually and emotionally obscene film that has ever been unleashed on this unsuspecting world. It is volatile, repugnant, blasphemous, sickening, and pornographic.
I cannot imagine any sane person of healthy mind and spirit actually enjoying this monstrosity. If one wanted a preview of what hell surely must be like, this film would fill that role excellently, and to be certain, the ultimate form of torture, far worse than any lifetime experience in a miserable SuperMax prison, would be a forced, mandatory twenty-four hour screening of this film in a theater.
That very experience alone, I can assure you, would cripple, paralyze, and traumatize any normal human being for life, both physically and mentally. If you hated and despised someone and wished to do them the most severe and unadulterated harm, you would give this film to them as a gift, for most certainly they would walk away deranged and mentally incompetent and unable to function as normal human beings ever again.
It is a godless film devoid of all humanity and is nothing short of a purely visceral ravaging of the post-modern soul. It is the product of a sick mind who produced it for a sick audience.
In short, this film is insanity.