Why did they arrrest General Bache?
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stevenishershel — 16 years ago(April 29, 2009 10:29 AM)
Possession of a firearm w/o a permit; possession of a weapon; posession of a weapon for unlawful purpose; murder (let the prosecutor decide to downgrade to manslaughter); etc.
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micaofboca-1 — 16 years ago(June 20, 2009 10:58 PM)
Bache thought he indeed had accidentally squeezed the trigger, even if there were other circumstances that mitigated his guilt. He was an elderly man in a state of extreme depression and not in a combative or even a self-protecting state of mind. His was a sad character. But his culpability in the accident was undeniable. He knew that he should have never had a live round in the chamber, not to mention merely having a loaded weapon to begin with at a school social function. I think Scott played his part extremely convincing with none of the overacting or phony British accent he's so prone to making ludicrously unprofessional. The man's a consummate actor, but he has the tendency in many roles to overact and thereby give an unconvincing portrayal. Not the case here. He was excellent in every facet. The child actors, too were just terrific. This is a landmark movie, to be praised in every way.
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Druff — 16 years ago(September 16, 2009 01:27 PM)
Bache did not shoot the kid. The drunk redneck who jumped Bache grabbed Bache's gun from the holster and shot his friend. It is very clear in the movie.
It's clear to us as viewers of the movie. It's not clear to the characters within the story. Hell, even Bache himself seems to be confused as to what actually happened. -
bhilla1 — 16 years ago(October 03, 2009 06:08 PM)
Regardless of why the gun went off, he brought it into the situation and he is responsible. Almost every police force would arrest him and then let the DA determine how to charge him after proper interviews. Anytime anyone is carrying a weapon they are responsible for everything that happens with it.
If you are cleaning a gun in your home, it goes off accidentally, and the bullet leaves your home and hits someoneexpect to get arrested. -
mpayson — 16 years ago(November 20, 2009 09:28 PM)
I suspect it was because the grand jury didn't get a chance to review the film before charging him.
Seriously, though, this is a pretty glaring continuity error in the film. The townie clearly had the gun in his hand during the fight, but Bache had it in his hand immediately after.
In reality, even if the gun had discharged in Bache's hand, it's doubtful that Bache would have been arrested in the real world. Any competent officer would have looked at the situation and realized that it was apparently an accidental discharge, and considered the fact that this is not a man who is a flight risk or a threat to the community. They could always have arrested him later if the facts showed something other than what they initially suggested, so there was absolutely no reason to arrest him prior to an investigation. Unfortunately not arresting him would have ruined the entire premise of the movie, so apparently the director didn't consider that an option. -
ArizonaKnightWolf — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 07:50 PM)
And, of course, the townie who actually pulled the trigger is going to come right up to the cops and say, "No, the General didn't do it. I was grabbing the gun, and I shot the round off. I killed my friend. The General, hell, the whole Bunker Hill Acadamy bares no responsibilty for it at all. it was all me! ME, I tells ya! ME!" And the cops walk him off in handcuffs as the owners of the Acadamy realize it would be a mistake to close the school.
It's a tough universeIf you're going to survive, you've really got to know where your towel is.
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garyw0001 — 15 years ago(May 28, 2010 12:08 AM)
All the Sheriff would need to do is perform a gunshot residue test on the General's hands to see if he had, indeed, fired the pistol.
Not being an instructor, he doesn't take an active part in the field training of the cadets, so it would be unlikely that he would have reason to fire a weapon, unless, of course, he recently took some target practice on the cardboard cut-outs they have of the townie kids in the school's firing range. -
ArizonaKnightWolf — 15 years ago(January 16, 2011 07:32 PM)
The Generals hand was near enough to the weapon that he would have gotten the residue on him as well. It just does not stick to the shooter magically. It does get tossed around a bit by the surround air.
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gabby_bm — 15 years ago(January 18, 2011 07:39 AM)
Truly sad is that if he were to go to a prison for manslaughter, it would have been one of those country club prisons where he would end up wearing a
"..little white shirt with cut-off sleeves, alligator on the tit, and spend the rest of his days beating the hell out of a little white ball with an iron club.."
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red_skin123 — 11 years ago(October 15, 2014 08:11 AM)
I feel like the scene was WRITTEN with the redneck wrestling with him and going for his weapon and then the General trying to protect, maybe even upholstering it, and he's the one holding it and the redneck is going after it, and then the General accidentally fires the weapon.
But how it was DIRECTED, in order to have the audience be more sympathetic is to have the Redneck get a hold of it, and even fire it. But I felt this was tedious in that logically all of the General's boys would backup (I'm sure a few of them would lay witness to that struggle) the fact it was the redneck at fault.
I do agree the General would have gotten arrested, but as another poster said, DA and cops would figure out what actually happened after interviews and an investigation.
But yeah, The General shouldn't have had his gun safety off, round in the chamber, maybe that's why he took responability, because he let his sidearm be taken from him by a drunken civi, and he improper condition of the weapon. -
stell1837 — 11 years ago(January 25, 2015 09:42 AM)
I'm surprised as to how much guilt, weak, and remorse General Bache felt afterwards. He's a military man who has probably killed others in all his battles. Bache should have defended himself and implicated the townie and declare that he was totally at fault - not himself. And it's too bad that the other townie got killed.but tough. He brought it up himself.
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WigglySniff — 10 years ago(August 18, 2015 10:12 PM)
Watch the scene again. The shot that kills the kid doesn't come from Bache's gun, but from far away.
The "redneck" (who's actually highly educated, probably French) and Dwyer are staging the entire thing. Moreland knows this from the get-go, but doesn't figure out why until his conversation with his "father" (who, of course, is not his father, but a fellow Mossad operative).