It probably would have been best to let John Rambo get a meal at the local restaurant.
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brokedickdog7 — 9 years ago(June 12, 2016 07:04 AM)
It probably would have been best to let John Rambo get a meal at the local restaurant.
Considering the events that transpired later Teasle made a slight error in judgment.
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machorne — 9 years ago(June 15, 2016 09:57 AM)
Yes. Very correct. I never understood what his problem was with Rambo. I now know that Teasle was mad because the war he served in didn't get as much attention. But even if that was the casearrested for vagrancy? All I saw Rambo doing was walking.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 02:14 PM)
He thought he looked like a criminal. So he treated him like one. After he finds out he's a Vietnam War vet he acts like a jealous jerk and refuses to listen to a stinking thing Trautman says.
Green Goblin is great! -
hobartz — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 11:35 PM)
99% of Cops know the difference between a tramp and a bum. A bum is looking for handouts and really doesn't care about himself or others. A tramp is living a transient life and will accept either handouts or work. Many tramps travel til they're out of money, then stay in flophouses and work until they build up a poke, then hit the road again. Rambo is clearly a tramp and would be accorded a measure of respect by the vast majority of LEOs. Most, not all. Some LEOs respect nobody and are the ones deserving of the scorn they get.
I'll share an encounter between a tramp and a Missouri county sheriff I witnessed in 1984, a couple of years after the release of First Blood. The sheriff was alerted one evening by the sheriff's office of the county just to the east about a transient they'd given a lift to the county line, headed into his county now. The sheriff was having a slow night, as usual, so he went to the county line and offered the transient a lift. Yes, he was scoping him out. He made clear to the guy that he was not ordering him to accept the ride, but if he'd like a lift, he could get him to town. The sheriff did not request ID or search him or even ask him his name. The guy accepted the ride (I was along as a civilian) and as we rode back into town we all chatted in friendly fashion. The guy was in his mid-20's and was just traveling the country as a lark for about 2 years. As we approached town the sheriff asked him if he had money to eat on, if he didn't, he'd buy him supper, whatever he wanted. The guy accepted the offer of supper at a local cafe' (it happened to be operated by my aunt), which was provided out of the sheriff's own pocket, not county funds.
During the meal which we all shared sitting together at a table, the sheriff asked him if he would like to stay overnight. The motel could put him up, but it would cost about $20. If he didn't have money, he could let him sleep on the sofa in his outer office. The tramp declined, saying he'd just keep going west. The sheriff offered to give him a lift to the west county line, which the tramp accepted. As we rode west, the sheriff contacted the next county over and said he was dropping a traveling man off at the county line.
End of event as I witnessed it. I'm pretty sure somebody from the next county over met the guy and offered him the same things. There was absolutely no heavy handedness on the part of any LEO in this situation. However, if the guy had been troublesome or out of whack, I'm pretty certain he'd have been dealt with lawfully but with respect.
So in my view, having seen what's possible and probably likely, Teasle was way out of line from the very beginning and the movie flows rather logically as a result. I'd have been pissed off about the treatment, too, if I was Rambo. -
Blue Wave — 3 years ago(June 22, 2022 06:25 AM)
I agree Teasle was a bad example. I think he was just looking for a fight. He got one. What made it a movie is that this time it didn't work. I am glad your experience was a good one. It turns out things that are different can be handled peacefully.
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Buzz — 3 years ago(June 22, 2022 07:02 AM)
Rambo had just found out his Nam buddy Delmar had died of cancer from exposure to Agent Orange. He looked like a guy who was mad at the world and had nothing to lose. I'm not sure he was capable of using a few extra words and telling Teasle what was eating him, but if he had, that first encounter could have gone much better and I think Teasle would have been more understanding.
But then we wouldn't have had the amazing story that followed!
I am just too genius for this board at times.- WarrenPeace said that!
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(June 22, 2022 09:06 AM)
Teasle was a first class prick and like Rambo said, he drew first blood. He created that scenario and while Rambo was a douchebag as well, (Vietnam Vets wanted honor and respect for being bunnies for the system), they still got government benefits/allowance for their service. The rest was up to them.
Stallone wanted his character to be a victim, but he only got in his own way. He got in Teasle's too, but such is life!
Norman! What did you put in my tea? -
stell1837 — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 02:31 PM)
I've stated this before and I'll state this error. Sheriff Teasle may have made a slight error in judgement, but John Rambo also made an error as well in that he could have at least tried to be more professional, respectful, and courteous to the Sheriff by making a statement such as:
"Sheriff, I'm very hungry right now and I'd like to get a bite to eat at that fast food restaurant over there. As soon as I'm done, then I'll be on my way."
It was definitely worth at try to make a statement like that to avoid confusion and misunderstandings. -
GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(July 18, 2016 09:00 PM)
I've stated this before and I'll state this error. Sheriff Teasle may have made a slight error in judgement, but John Rambo also made an error as well in that he could have at least tried to be more professional, respectful, and courteous to the Sheriff by making a statement such as:
"Sheriff, I'm very hungry right now and I'd like to get a bite to eat at that fast food restaurant over there. As soon as I'm done, then I'll be on my way."
No offense but there was nothing impolite about the way he asked Teasle for a bite to eat. Teasle was just a no good stinking jerk and a complete disgrace as both a police officer and a person. There was no good stinking reason for him to not let Rambo get a bite to eat in town. He also comments when he brings Rambo in and gets asked who he is, "Another smart ass drifter." indicating he has made up charges against anyone who is homeless that is walking through his town.
He's a no good stinking jerk and I doubt he's ever given a single cent to a charity and probably has never tried to help out a homeless person. It's a shame cause in the book he actually lets Rambo get a bite to eat in town and doesn't arrest him til he tries to come back into town after that. Also unlike the movie, in the book,Teasle actually listens to Trautman and feels bad about how he treated Rambo. Also unlike movie Teasle he's not jealous of Rambo's Congressional Medal of Honor.
Green Goblin is great! -
tabbycat — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 12:30 AM)
Calling Teasle a "no-good stinking jerk" does the movie a disservice by missing the point. To quote one of my favorite Wilford Brimley lines, from "Absence of Malice":
"He was a nice guy.
He just forgot about the rules."
Teasle is too wrapped up in his own viewpoint to see that he is trampling on the rights of a citizen by running Rambo out of town. Despite the statement he makes while in the cruiser, he is NOT the law.
It is in fact HE who is breaking the law by violating Rambo's civil rights. -
howard_w13 — 9 years ago(August 18, 2016 07:26 AM)
Teasle is too wrapped up in his own viewpoint to see that he is trampling on the rights of a citizen by running Rambo out of town. Despite the statement he makes while in the cruiser, he is NOT the law.
It is in fact HE who is breaking the law by violating Rambo's civil rights.
THIS. ^^^^
This is the "slight error in judgement" that Teasle makes. Up to that point Rambo had broken NO laws.
The movie has a plot hole?!?
EVERY FRIGGIN' MOVIE HAS A FRIGGIN' PLOT HOLE!!!!! -
GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 07:55 PM)
Calling Teasle a "no-good stinking jerk" does the movie a disservice by missing the point. To quote one of my favorite Wilford Brimley lines, from "Absence of Malice":
"He was a nice guy.
He just forgot about the rules."
Teasle is too wrapped up in his own viewpoint to see that he is trampling on the rights of a citizen by running Rambo out of town. Despite the statement he makes while in the cruiser, he is NOT the law.
It is in fact HE who is breaking the law by violating Rambo's civil rights.
Whatever. I don't find him that sympathetic. He certainly isn't as sympathetic as his novel counterpart.
Green Goblin is great! -
armhammer — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 06:12 PM)
There's another scene later in the movie where he claims to be, " The Law! " It's in a tent, in a conversation with a State Police officer, where he's trying to justify the abuse his deputies perpetrated against Rambo. He says ( paraphrased), " I'm the law ! When someone starts f..king with the law is when all hell breaks loose!" Absolutely hypocritical or what ?
" Wrapped up in his own viewpoint " is an understatement ! How do we first see his character? Emerging from the police station, inhaling, savoring, absolutely full of his position and self-importance which was ultimately his undoing.He was obviously a man of extreme pride and he would let nothing get in the way of saving face.
The only other character more despicable was his apparent second in command, Galt!
Oddly reminiscent of the irrational, redneck hatred displayed in Easy Rider. -
brokedickdog7 — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 07:14 PM)
He made a big error in judgment. A police officer can't just tell someone they have to leave a public town without some sort of legal reason.
Technically you are correct but it does happen in small towns in the USA.
Residents want a small quiet town. You might say "boring". So they hire a Sheriff/Police Officer to keep it that way.
If an officer sees a stranger that is perceived as undesirable or dangerous the officer will run him out of town. -
fiero-49251 — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 12:34 AM)
and you see what the town got for their narrow-mindedness? The whole place was bombed; nothing left in 1 piece in downtown
"hillbilly-land!"
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