One of the Best….Who Agrees?….SPOILERS
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Ghombie — 16 years ago(January 28, 2010 11:45 AM)
I do not believe the story that Vietnam Vets were "spat upon" when returning home in uniform as a regular occurance or an organized effort by any protester group. Its an urban legend. I believe that incidents of spitting AT veterans may have occured in rare cases but there are no factual accounts of it happening in the news, nor any police reports of subsequent beatings of the spitters by the spit-ees. As if a seasoned combat veteran would not lash out at an assault by some deranged hippie with extreme prejudice. If it happened so much as is claimed then at least one vet would have struck back even if they would be court martialed for it. That event would generate a police report that could be verified. NOT EVEN ONE REPORT! And it keeps getting repeated as fact, but I dont buy it, no sir!
Give me a break, its just propaganda for pro war minded people and groups to villify all war protesters past and present because some drugged out hippy defiling a combat vet is so much easier to hate and emotionally charge people up with than a concientious protester of a war with a valid argument. I love how the Swift Boat Vets attacked Kerry's service with nothing but a bunch of bullcrap and so many people bought it whole hog. Meanwhile Bush had his cushy ANG gig that he barely even showed up for and the same people say "SO WHAT!". Its just too stupid to even talk about but I guess thats the point. Stymie your opponent with astonishing statements and posture of brutal illogic and stupidity. Just because they were scared by nonsense just like this spitting on MYTH that keeps getting propogated as a fact. Well I dont believe it ever happened and until some definitive proof can be shown that it did happen and with a planned organized effort and it happened that way even once I wont ever believe it. I dont care who says it happened be it a vet or a friend of a vet or a foaf of a vet. If you were a soldier and you were spit on you should have broken every bone in their face and stood trial for such a cowardly act, if authorities saw fit to try the soldier with a very understandable violent response to a personal assault. It would have been a stand against depravity in US culture and would have been a historical moment that would be remembered this very day because someone could cite it here to counter my argument but they cant because there is no evidence because it likely didnt happen anywhere near the amount that this urban legend suggests, not even close. A man should know if a fight is worth the sacrifice and not let people assault him just because he's scared hell get thrown in the brig for it by some dbag superiour officer. These guys were returning from a warzone, the thought of a reprimand or trial concerning their treatement would give them pause, really? Sorry, it just doesnt add up. But hey, I like to think for myself and think critically instead of just taking someones word for it and gettin all werked up over it, haw!
All stories of the spitting on returning vets type are secondhand or personal recollections from vets that are difficult or impossible to verify. I do believe that anti war protesters who were also vets (like John Kerry was) were spit on by frustrated Americans who couldnt understand the treasonous act of using the first ammendment. People who are ruled by fear are capable of doing quite alot of damage as the last 6 or so years has demonstrated.
Ghombie
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meme-29 — 15 years ago(February 09, 2011 10:05 AM)
first, I love this movie!!
Second, re the Vietnam v. other wars including now: I think today's soldiers will be much better off even with multiple tours. They know about PTSD now and counseling is not scorned and is greatly offered. Also, WWI, WWII, Korea & Vietnam were still a lot of "hand to hand" combat, which has to be much more physically & psychologically damaging. Nowadays, most of the fighting is from farther away with technology. Not saying the IED's are not horrible and the fear of them great. But not every soldier is expecting close up hand to hand, kill or be killed, fighting.
Also even if some Americans are against today's wars, they don't treat the soldiers badly as in Vietnam. Back when President Bush was in and so many were so foaming at the mouth against the wars (why has that changed with Obama in?? hmmm) I never heard of soldiers being treated badly upon return. Except for that stupid religion that boycotts funerals and they DON"T COUNT! beep
JMO