Olmos is a wonderful actor, and I totally get why you need a character like Castillo here, but does anyone know if he ev
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Fluke_Skywalker — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 05:53 AM)
Olmos is a wonderful actor, and I totally get why you need a character like Castillo here, but does anyone know if he ever lets his guard drop for even a second in an episode? A smile. A quip.
Some
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catch_the_spindrift — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 06:42 AM)
Back in 1986, Edward James Olmos answered a similar question with this answer:
"I don't see myself going,
"Four killed on that drug bust? Ha, ha, ha! Sonny, you're really good."
They simply don't give me any scenes where I can smile."
That being said, in the last scene of
The Home Invaders
(from season one), you can see Castillo grin, as Lt. Malone and Sonny chat just before Malone informs Sonny that he is retiring.
I hope this helps.
Edit: One other note about that episode. Tubbs does not appear at all in the episode. He was injured filming the previous episode. From the entire series, this was the only episode PMT did not appear in.
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Mr-Fusion — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 07:20 AM)
catch_the_spindrift
, good call on The Home Invaders. I'd forgotten about that scene.
OP, there was a fourth season episode (I think it was "Death and the Lady") where Castillo smiles. He asks what a kitten's doing in the squadroom and Crockett says, "evidence".
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Fluke_Skywalker — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 08:23 AM)
Excellent work, catch_the_spindrift and Mr-Fusion!
Really
appreciate the responses and the knowledge. That's exactly what I was looking for and then some.
I just finished watching "Payback" (S2, Ep.19) and Castillo, as always, is a slow burn. But there was a nice moment between he and Crockett. Sonny was under investigation from Internal Affairs and he goes to the office to find Castillo in
his
office, lights off and on his small couch (presumably sleeping, or more accurately, trying to). Crockett asks what Castillo believes and in typical Castillo speak he says "You're a good cop.". When Sonny wants to pursue the matter to clear his name (involving taking down a dealer) Castillowho had heretofore said the matter was too dangerouspauses and then says "You got him.". I'm sure it reads rather simple, but Olmos plays it perfectly. He's betting on his man. Nice moment, well played by both actors and it shows a hint of Castillo's humanity.A journey into the realm of the obscure:
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Mr-Fusion — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 10:16 AM)
Agreed, it is a great Crockett-Castillo moment.
Payback's a great one. One of my favorite fiction authors wrote that episode. It's kinda tragic that they never again (in the series) picked up the dangling thread left in the last scene (Fuente still thinks Crockett has his money), but it still plays as classic Vice noir.
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Fluke_Skywalker — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 03:56 AM)
Wasn't familiar with the name Aaron Lipstadt, but looked him up and I am familiar with some of his work. I see that he was a production manager on
Battle Beyond the Stars
, which makes him a legend in my book.
Vice
did a pretty good job of bringing plot threads and characters back in (which aids greatly in its world building), but they also left some major ones dangling. For instance I know that we never hear anymore about Rico Jr. either, which is mind boggling.A journey into the realm of the obscure:
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Mr-Fusion — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 06:21 AM)
Wasn't familiar with the name Aaron Lipstadt
I'm not either. Had to look that name up just to make sure I was reading properly.
Not sure why IMDb has Lipstadt credited as the writer, but "Payback" was actually written by Robert Crais:
http://miamivice.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Crais
Anyhoo, you're right, Rico's son was another dangling thread, even though we got closure on Calderone's kid (Leguizamo).
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Mr-Fusion — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 06:28 AM)
Wasn't familiar with the name Aaron Lipstadt
Had to make sure I was reading that right. Looks like Lipstadt was the director, but it was written by Robert Crais:
http://miamivice.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Crais
Talking about this episode makes me want to watch it again.
Anyhoo, you're right, Rico's son was another dangling thread, even though we got closure on Calderone's kid (Leguizamo).
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Fluke_Skywalker — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 08:06 AM)
Ahhh, okay, that's my bad then. I looked it up after I got home from work, and my caffeine level had dipped below critical
. Clear not mind. Straight not thinking.
I see Crais is well versed in the world of cops and crooks. I was about to ask why Hollywood hasn't come knocking to adapt his novels, but I saw they already have
Hostage (2005)
.
I suppose it would've been a bit of a buzzkill to have Tubbs changing diapers in between busting bad guys, but it's really surprising they didn't do more with that particular thread. Then again, Sonny's family sorta falls out of the picture as well.A journey into the realm of the obscure:
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Fluke_Skywalker — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 07:55 AM)
Very cool, thanks for the info
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catch_the_spindrift — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 11:53 AM)
Just watched this episode again and the great scene you were referring to. I think that was the biggest smile and laugh he ever had in the entire series.
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Fluke_Skywalker — 9 years ago(June 18, 2016 04:18 AM)
Well wait, Crockett married Sheena Easton?! Huh. Yeah, how could Castillo not smile at that?
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