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syafiqjabar — 11 years ago(September 19, 2014 12:14 AM)
Pretty ironic posting this in the Transformers board, a cartoon where the writers admitted that they ignore plot in favor of action, infamous for bad animation, lack of continuity, and characters appearing or disappearing not because of the story but because Hasbro wanted to advertise new toys or get rid of characters whose toys are outdated.
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SydneyIz — 11 years ago(September 24, 2014 02:52 PM)
Pretty ironic posting this in the Transformers board, a cartoon where the writers admitted that they ignore plot in favor of action, infamous for bad animation, lack of continuity, and characters appearing or disappearing not because of the story but because Hasbro wanted to advertise new toys or get rid of characters whose toys are outdated.
Yes, but don't you think find it that such a disinterested cartoon still looks far more competent and engaging than most action-oriented children cartoons/child-oriented shows in general. Moreover, even the worst G1 episodes, are more intelligently written than any Transformers film directed by Michael Bay. -
syafiqjabar — 11 years ago(January 06, 2015 07:38 PM)
Many cartoons that came in the 1990s and onwards managed to be toy commercials AND have good writing and animation. This included Beast Wars who managed to be a match for shows like Batman The Animated Series and Gargoyles.
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TwoThousandOneMark — 11 years ago(March 17, 2015 04:04 PM)
I did a full G1 rewatch last year, its IQ is certainly no greater than what seems to be around these days.
Nearly every single character is 'single trait', add action, & a bit of exposition & voila, there's only so much that can fit into 22min eps run times.
That was one of the aspects I'd overlooked & forgotten from being a kid. G1 S2 was just a slew of standalone episodes. That alone isn't very impressive, regarding this IQ subject. It would've been great had they been willing to dole out a few more mini arcs, rather than a few here & there (My fav being the Stunticons/Aerialbots origin 2 parter). At least give us & the show greater sense of development & continuity, as reward & payoff for watching entire seasons.
S3 managed to accept that much better, alas by that time the magic was dwindling. Also, for me at least, I was growing out of the show & moving into NES lols. (I appreciated S3 much better with my adult sense, without a sense of childish letdown)
As mentioned, the movie certainly upped the ante & even with so many deaths for toy turnover, it paid off our devotion to the show & characters leading in.
If that movie hadn't happened, or how it did, we probably might not even be still discussing G1 here in the 21st century like this lols.
It's like New Coke. Coca Cola rebounded & hasn't been #2 since. Transformers The Movie was kinda like that. We hated how it marginalized all our main favs for the sake of new toys, & yet all the deaths have amplified how much we really were into G1. -
residentevil6901 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:48 PM)
You're right on the money. I think today's stuff is completely lame / dumb. I think cartoons have been dumb since the very end of the 90's / first of the 2000's. My kids were born in 99 and 2000 so they started watching stuff in 2001 to 2002 and I got to say some of that stuff then was so bad I'd actually laughed out loud at it.
I know that Transformers G1 today is kind of cheesy but man I tell you what the cheese of the 80s is so much cooler then today's cheesy stuff. I think that Transformers is the best cartoon of all time. Followed by Voltron, Thundercats, G.I. Joe, Silverhawks, Robotech, He-Man, Battle of the Planets & Robotix. Gobots was kind of cool but lame in comparison to Transformers. I never got into TMNT since it was kind of past when I was watching cartoons but I know that people put that on their favorite list of 80s TV shows. I've also heard that M.A.S.K., Jayce & the Wheeled Warriors, Sabre Rider & The Star Sheriffs, The Galaxy Rangers, BraveStarr & Mighty Orbots are cool but I've only seen a few episodes and not enough to form an opinion about them.
I think cartoons in the 90s still remained pretty cool and were a lot like the 80s cartoons until the end of the 90s like I said. -
ryto_69 — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 01:47 PM)
You're not wrong, today's cartoons seem to focus on demonstrating childish teenage personalities, fashion, behaviour influencing type stuff whereas the 80s cartoons and specifically Transformers just showed us great stories and characters and presented them in a way which we could emulate when we played with our toys.. obviously to get us to want to buy the toys though.
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TutuAnimationPrincess — 5 years ago(November 16, 2020 10:56 PM)
I know this topic is ancient, but I can't resist. It was just the OP's impression. While there are some 80s gems, this wasn't one of them. It's not even enjoyable on an ironic level like He-Man. Boring uninteresting 80s trash, every decade since has had multiple shows light years better than this.
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preachcaleb — 5 years ago(November 17, 2020 08:06 PM)
Gotta disagree there. This is still my favorite 80s action cartoon. The voices are great, in particular Soundwave, Astrotrain, Megatron, and Optimus Prime. There's fan action and one of the catchiest theme songs of the 80s.
And the concept alone is brilliant. Toys that turn into cars and robots. It's like two in one.
So many stories, so little time.
