Among every opinion I heard, I really don't think I've heard from fans who were kids glues to their tvs when the show us
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jones82176 — 15 years ago(February 18, 2011 05:12 PM)
I hate them. Not so much because they are bad movies, but because I am 34 so the g1 cartoons, from 84-86 will always hold a special place in my heart. If you like the Bay movies, God bless you, you're entitled to your opinion, but they are NOT for me. I don't think putting them into a live action movie was a good idea at all anyway. The shows blatant disregard for size scale, as well as outdated technology, I mean, who carries a tape recorder anymore?, make this something that only works as a cartoon.
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Enigmatic-Ocean — 14 years ago(April 05, 2011 09:28 PM)
It's complete garbage! What the hell does Bay or Spielberg know about transformers?! Why on earth thoes two were put in charge of this franchise is beyond me. They should have gotten someone who would honor the source material. The robots should have looked kind of like their Action Master counterparts. Instead we got "Transformers" who looked more like Bionicles.
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ryto_69 — 14 years ago(June 06, 2011 11:00 PM)
Several reason why I don't like them, I did enjoy the movies, but in review I thought the story and script were cheap crap.
I didn't like how they just took whatever they wanted from the transformers lore and mashed it together, especially use of certain quotes. It's like all they wanted was to use the transformers identity and use enough of the lore to give it credibility.
The humor in the movie.. awful.. really so awful.. is it really necessary to throw in cheap humor to cover up bad writing just to get us through the movie? Sure it's funny to the younger teenage viewers.. but I cringed in the first movie when the parents started talking about him locking his door so he could masturbate.. I mean really, couldn't you make the story more interesting without that? -
Blade27 — 14 years ago(August 04, 2011 05:55 PM)
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/03/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-cr osses-billion/
Cue the Michael Bay haters!
In whats becoming an increasingly common achievement in Hollywood, Transformers: Dark of the Moon crossed the $1 billion mark at the global box office on Tuesday, the films 35th day of release. In doing so, Dark of the Moon became the first film in the Transformers franchise to earn $1 billion (not surprisingly, its also the first one released in 3-D), as well as Paramounts first-ever $1 billion box office hit.
The robot-alien blockbuster, which has earned $338.8 million domestically and $663 million overseas, is the third film to surpass $1 billion this summer, following Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2.
That's bloody impressive!
Who's The More Foolish
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alekesam — 14 years ago(August 13, 2011 01:51 AM)
Lesee, how do I feel about Bay's TFs as a G1 fan? A G1 fan who ran home from the bus stop because it came on at 4pm and my school bus drops me off 4 blocks from my house at 3:55. Every day, I ran home so I could make it before it came on. The 86' movie I've seen so much I literally could quote it title to credits, complete with music cues and such. Which also introduced my favorite Con, Galvatron. I had the entire Marvel comic book series and quite a few of the toys that my folks could afford. With all that said, I say
I friggin' loved the live-action films! They weren't perfect, but there was much to like in the series, especially if you take it as being it's own thing, which seems to be the major problem people have with it (not being close enough to G1). Me, I'm glad they didn't ape the cartoon completely. None of that mass displacement (Soundwave/Blaster/Megatron being able to transform into something so small always bugged me as a kid) mess was in the live-action movie so that was a plus. Them only being able to transform into something of equal mass was brilliant. I also like them being able to scan their own forms as opposed to Teletran-1 doing it as each Transformer can fit their alt modes to their own personality and need. And it's not like they took non-descript robots and slapped TFs on it. Throughout the live action series, there are TFs lore and nods sprinkled throughout the series, just in some cases, it's a different interpretation of them. That shouldn't be a mark against it being different.
This next part will probably sound blasphemous but live-action movie Optimus is my preferred DESIGN (capped it so that people don't think I mean personality-wise just design-wise), flames and all, now. Same with Bumblebee. I liked the design choices that they made with the autobots as well as the decepticons (tho' admittedly, somenot allof the COn's could've used a little more work). They look like I always thought a live action TF would look like, gears and bolts and things, shiny parts, oil dried parts, constantly moving, and limber/lean, more like an anime mech (which themselves are usually well thought out in concept/practicality) and definetly, no liquid metal facesthey have jaws and sockets and joints. And despite what people say, unless you're 60, you can easily tell apart who is whom. I mean, they did something right because now in the comics, they still have their G1 forms, but way more detailed as a mechanoid of their advanced nature should be.
The humans were there to help not have the robots be in every scene for budgetary reasons. With that in your head going in, it smooths over the lack of Transformers presence in the first one. As the series progressed, we got more, which culminated in DotM. Lots of Tfs screen time and actually talking. DotM by far is the most TFs centric of the three.
So, in a nutshell, I loved the live action series and can't wait for the 4th one. To sum it all up, it's just another incarnation of my beloved TFs.
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q_leo_rahman — 14 years ago(September 15, 2011 03:26 PM)
My first post on this thread. Fancy that.
Well IMHO the TFilms are flawed, but stunning. I pretty much agree on the points alekesam has brought up, but would like to put in my own thoughts.
TFans must please keep in mind that the movies represent an original continuity, separate from G1 but definitely inspired by it, as most TF shows have done before. So in this universe, we have the AllSpark, the Dynasty of Primes and the Fallen, and Sentinel Prime. Though loosely done (each film has its own continuity to make it easier for non-fans), its all fit together and explained in this link:
Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg worked hard to make the films a visual treat, as well as anchor them to reality. To that end, they tied in real-life events (Beagle 2, Seekers, Apollo), and took great pains to make the Transformers as realistic as possible (giving them multi-segmented, alien-looking designs). And to be fair, there were a load of production hassles: the budget limit meant only a few robots could appear out of the vast armada of Autobots/Deceptions, and also a deal with GM meant only GM vehicles could appear; there was also a writers strike, and
I will admit that the first film was awesome while the second and third films werent that good. The filmmakers did their best to make the films appeal to both TFans and non-fans (Id cut them slack on this alone given how unforgiving and difficult this is), but they made misjudgments in development in the sequels that really stuck with me and with other TFans: they placed too much focus on the human side of it, and they made the war uneven-sided, having a small Autobot army up against a vast armada of Decepticons, when the war is definitely even-sided.
Also of significant complaint is the misdirected characterization: Megatron is sidelined by his master, and then his co-conspirator; Starscream whines but never betrays, Bumblebee remains a mute throughout the trilogy; Wheeljack became a YinSen-Erskine ripoff, and most infamously Devastators you know.
On the plus side, you cant deny that once MBay actually focuses on the Tranformers and their battles (the main purpose of watching), then the films pick up and actually make great viewing. MBay revised the Transformers into badass automobiles/warriors, especially Ratchet and Bumblebee, and the VFX fights taking place, augmented by real-life destruction and explosions, was top-notch. On that level Michael Bay did not disappoint: seeing the Transformers in live-action was a dream come true.
On the whole, the TFilms, when they actually focus on the fighting robots, are great. But those parts are way too short for viewers and the other parts of the film, apart from backing up the VFX and action, are near-worthless and are only for sitting through between one fight and the next.
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Lunchbox-3 — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 06:43 PM)
None of that mass displacement (Soundwave/Blaster/Megatron being able to transform into something so small always bugged me as a kid) mess was in the live-action movie so that was a plus. Them only being able to transform into something of equal mass was brilliant.
Except for the Cube/Allspark which could transform from the size of a building to something the size and weight of a football. -
kamehameha1977 — 14 years ago(October 14, 2011 06:50 PM)
crap.I think of the old school Silverstone cookware metal objects frying eggs whenever I see previews of the Bay movies.
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Mr-Fusion — 14 years ago(December 02, 2011 10:20 AM)
The blockbuster live-action films are Bay movies, not Transformers movies. They're films that have every last Bay trademark splashed on the screen . . . with giant robots thrown in. And this shouldn't be read as me slamming Bay or coming off as a TF fanboy - just that they needed more than just Peter Cullen to resemble the cartoon in any recognizable fashion. Aside from the participation of Orci and Kurtzman (my god, they're bad), that's really the only bad thing I have to say about the movies. Well I guess that, and the garish look of the CGI.
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blackheart981 — 14 years ago(December 06, 2011 07:54 PM)
Yeah, I agree Fusion. I know it had to do with money, but the ideal TF movie would had been a movie, well, with Transformers. Like you said, it felt like they were just thrown in. The latest TF film also lacked Decepticons for the most part.